Suntour barcons
09-05-13 | 04:50 PM
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Suntour barcons
So I've got two similar Suntour barcons, for a Nishiki Cresta GT city commuter. They'll (probably) go into mustache bars. Call me anal, but I'd like the barcons to be identical, which leads me to four questions:
As usual, thanks a ton for any and all input.
- Are one of these better than the other? With the Accushift, on the right, I don't think my unusual 3-pulley Suntour XC Sport RD is compatible for index shifting so I will be using it in friction mode. The Power Control, on the left, has a nice micro-ratcheting feel but is missing the foil label.
- Would anybody have one or the other (in one of those famous parts bins) they would consider offering up to me?
- Would I wrap the ends with something before insertion to help them catch and grip while expanding? There is about 2mm of space, which the expanding spring/cam system can take up, but it seems to be at almost maximum diameter. Any tricks or tips?
- I'm planning on wrapping bar tape from the bar ends to the middle of the bars...is that usual for barcon installs?
As usual, thanks a ton for any and all input.
09-05-13 | 05:14 PM
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Bar cons
So I've got two similar Suntour barcons, for a Nishiki Cresta GT city commuter. They'll (probably) go into mustache bars. Call me anal, but I'd like the barcons to be identical, which leads me to four questions:
As usual, thanks a ton for any and all input.
- Are one of these better than the other? With the Accushift, on the right, I don't think my unusual 3-pulley Suntour XC Sport RD is compatible for index shifting so I will be using it in friction mode. The Power Control, on the left, has a nice micro-ratcheting feel but is missing the foil label.
- Would anybody have one or the other (in one of those famous parts bins) they would consider offering up to me?
- Would I wrap the ends with something before insertion to help them catch and grip while expanding? There is about 2mm of space, which the expanding spring/cam system can take up, but it seems to be at almost maximum diameter. Any tricks or tips?
- I'm planning on wrapping bar tape from the bar ends to the middle of the bars...is that usual for barcon installs?
As usual, thanks a ton for any and all input.
09-05-13 | 06:03 PM
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People will tell you that you can't tuck cloth tape into the bars if you're using Barcons. Maybe they can't, but I can and I've done it more than once. You just have to tuck smoothly and maybe help the Barcons in with a couple of taps with a soft hammer.
09-05-13 | 06:31 PM
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09-05-13 | 06:37 PM
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+1 While I never tuck the bar tape under the bar cons, I just rescued a set off a donor bike, each one had bar tape underneath. No problem.
09-05-13 | 07:18 PM
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I bought these assuming they were a pair, but several things have me wondering why they are considered a pair. One has micro-clicks while the other doesn't, they are labeled differently, and even the rubber covers are shaped differently.
09-05-13 | 07:21 PM
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O.K., I see how the barcon would fit with cloth tape tucked into the bars, but what if I were to use a gel/cork tape? No way that fits tucked in, right?
09-05-13 | 07:28 PM
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No, I wouldn't try. I always wrap the bars starting at the ends, and always (esp. for bar-end shifters) cut the tape at an angle at the start and finish. I've never tucked tape into the barcons, but I like thicker tape.
09-05-13 | 08:16 PM
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I've started at the bar ends by wrapping a bit beyond the bars with cork tape. Then, after I finish, I cut a little off, tuck it inside and insert the barcon. It's a little tricky this way because you want to get the housing in just the right place.
09-05-13 | 08:22 PM
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+1. I think the OP has a genuine pair of shifters that have been well used and spent time in a shop parts bin.
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09-05-13 | 09:40 PM
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If you're going to shellac, you can wrap them any damn way you please. Nothing is going to budge that, short of whatever thinner you use to undo shellac.
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