:lol: and I must be a fool because I have so many responses from buyers saying, 'far better than I thought' and so forth. But then again, I always say descriptions exactly as I would want to read them. "never been installed but it is far from pristine, it's got some scratches and bumps". I would rather overstate an imperfection than understate it. I do however have some bidders blocked. I once sold 3 celeste Bianchi pumps with a clear descriptions stating "parts only, battered, beaten, and whipped. Non-working condition". Those are exact terms I used. And I got neutral stating "I wish I would have know they didn't work". my ebay id: wspokes and out of a little over 1000+. I have one neutral. no negs. With this thread...now I need to go back to the prior ebay blocked thread and list him....he's got me thinking about that again.

Buyer beware as always...be informed.

I wound up with a girlfriend when we started talking about a tortoise at the San Francisco zoo.

I like cheese, too.

You're no fool, Pamaguahiker. On the contrary, you're an honest seller. In other words, you'd much rather describe an item honestly, listing every possible defect a person might, or might NOT, see in the photos...rather than try to hide something or maximize your profits by trying to flog something as NOS, when it isn't. Which seems to me is the issue of this thread. Pictures don't tell the whole story. I like to rely on a person's word. But so many sellers are opting out of any sort of written description whatsoever these days. Why? Because they can be held to account. "Look at the pics for condition" . These are the words of a person who is trying to hide something in my view.

Why anyone would want to argue about what the term NOS means is beyond me.

bookmark. I want to read this tomorrow. Carry on.

Yes, he sure had me scratching my head with that statement :)

I guess what he meant was that if it were him, the wear present would be good enough for him to accept as NOS from someone else. I wonder, though...

DD