Building a winter beater... need some input
#1
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 6
From: Rochester, NY
Bikes: 1962 Carlton Franco-Suisse Custom,1968 Raleigh DL-1/Tourist, 1971 Holdsworth Professional, 1973 Holdsworth Mistral,1973 Raleigh Gran Sport,1974 Raleigh Grand Prix, 1993 Trek 2200 Composite, 2011 Trek 7.3FX
Building a winter beater... need some input
so i have a 1984 Schwinn world sport thats been languishing all summer, partially built in different itterations.. i used it last summer as a semi decent hybrid.. i was thinking of selling it outright this year but still never got around to it, its not worth much, the frame is scratched and i welded on some v brake bosses, which worked great until on of the bosses snapped... sooo.. now she really isn't winning any beauty contests..
i usually don't like riding when the colder weather hits, but my 1yr old german shepherd dog has other ideas, i have to take her on a run every night to keep her occupied, and the bike riding obsession accomodates her well
i'm thinking of continuing our riding/running trips through the winter but i really don't want to use my nice bikes, they will all be hybrinating till spring.. so figured why not the schwinn? i have enough parts in the bin to build up a heinous hybrid of some sort.. with 700c rims and a mismatching brake setup... its really just for quick shots around the block and back, i have some old hybrid tires that i was going to throw on the rims, and i was going to wrap zip ties around the rims to provide extra traction once the snow hits.
i was going to run a simple friction setup with thumbies and the crappiest derailluers my parts bin could afford. this is purely functionality any ideas would be appreciated...
thanks...
- the bike in question...
- the pooch in question
i usually don't like riding when the colder weather hits, but my 1yr old german shepherd dog has other ideas, i have to take her on a run every night to keep her occupied, and the bike riding obsession accomodates her well
i'm thinking of continuing our riding/running trips through the winter but i really don't want to use my nice bikes, they will all be hybrinating till spring.. so figured why not the schwinn? i have enough parts in the bin to build up a heinous hybrid of some sort.. with 700c rims and a mismatching brake setup... its really just for quick shots around the block and back, i have some old hybrid tires that i was going to throw on the rims, and i was going to wrap zip ties around the rims to provide extra traction once the snow hits.
i was going to run a simple friction setup with thumbies and the crappiest derailluers my parts bin could afford. this is purely functionality any ideas would be appreciated...
thanks...
- the bike in question...
- the pooch in question
#2
Living in Rochester, you'll probably be thinking about studded tires... Last time I looked the narrowest tire would be about 35mm... so you need to check that. However, if you are going to wait until the snow plows have cleared and de-iced the streets, this would be an excellent winter bike.
#4
Still learning

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 11,529
Likes: 87
From: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Bikes: Still a garage full
Take thee to the Coop!
Why not a mountain bike? Or studded tires on your 930? I picked up 2-3 WS over time. What a POS! Rides like a loaded dump truck.
You can note from that Schwinn Guy, Scooper, that the WS is fourth from the bottom in the late 1980's
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...chwinn-Prelude
$30
https://rochester.craigslist.org/bik/3983066493.html
$125
https://rochester.craigslist.org/bik/4068327823.html
$125
https://rochester.craigslist.org/bik/4066778574.html
Why not a mountain bike? Or studded tires on your 930? I picked up 2-3 WS over time. What a POS! Rides like a loaded dump truck.
You can note from that Schwinn Guy, Scooper, that the WS is fourth from the bottom in the late 1980's
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...chwinn-Prelude
$30
https://rochester.craigslist.org/bik/3983066493.html
$125
https://rochester.craigslist.org/bik/4068327823.html
$125
https://rochester.craigslist.org/bik/4066778574.html
Last edited by oddjob2; 09-17-13 at 11:36 AM.
#5
CL Addict


Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,096
Likes: 152
From: Evanston, IL
Bikes: '50s Leon Cattrysse - late 50s Raleigh Lenton Sports - '72 Canadian Tire Company Supercycle - '74 Raleigh International - '84 Centurion Turbo - '86 v. Herwerden (Chesini) - '87 Specialized Sirrus
#6
I will also suggest you scrap this one and pick up a used MTB, should be able to find one real cheep and just give it a tune-up. it will ride so much better in the snow and you will have lots of studded options if you decide you like it enough to go that route.
__________________
1 Super Record bike, 1 Nuovo Record bike, 1 Pista, 1 Road, 1 Cyclocross/Allrounder, 1 MTB, 1 Touring, 1 Fixed gear
1 Super Record bike, 1 Nuovo Record bike, 1 Pista, 1 Road, 1 Cyclocross/Allrounder, 1 MTB, 1 Touring, 1 Fixed gear
#7
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 6
From: Rochester, NY
Bikes: 1962 Carlton Franco-Suisse Custom,1968 Raleigh DL-1/Tourist, 1971 Holdsworth Professional, 1973 Holdsworth Mistral,1973 Raleigh Gran Sport,1974 Raleigh Grand Prix, 1993 Trek 2200 Composite, 2011 Trek 7.3FX
its hard to justify getting another bike just to do this one simple thing... when i have a frame that im not using... im sure i can make this one work.. single speed is a good idea, i already have the parts for that...
#8
Senior Member




Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 21,767
Likes: 5,668
From: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
Or sell it in the spring when the market picks up and buy an MTB now when the market is a bit down. Rigid MTBs make the best platform on which to build a commuter since it will tolerate a wide range of mods. Plus the upright sitting position is pretty good when the roads are dicey.
#10
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 6
From: Rochester, NY
Bikes: 1962 Carlton Franco-Suisse Custom,1968 Raleigh DL-1/Tourist, 1971 Holdsworth Professional, 1973 Holdsworth Mistral,1973 Raleigh Gran Sport,1974 Raleigh Grand Prix, 1993 Trek 2200 Composite, 2011 Trek 7.3FX
and definitely no to using my 930, i spent a ton of money rebuilding that one, i want to keep her as fresh as possible...
#11
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 6
From: Rochester, NY
Bikes: 1962 Carlton Franco-Suisse Custom,1968 Raleigh DL-1/Tourist, 1971 Holdsworth Professional, 1973 Holdsworth Mistral,1973 Raleigh Gran Sport,1974 Raleigh Grand Prix, 1993 Trek 2200 Composite, 2011 Trek 7.3FX
oh the wifey has a nicely built up panasonic, i still need to take pics of that one.. she is still getting used to the drop bars tho, i may need to swap out the aero brakes for something with a smaller reach, she has tiny hands..
#12
Get off my lawn!


Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6,035
Likes: 118
From: The Garden State
Bikes: 1917 Loomis, 1923 Rudge, 1930 Hercules Renown, 1947 Mclean, 1948 JA Holland, 1955 Hetchins, 1957 Carlton Flyer, 1962 Raleigh Sport, 1978&81 Raleigh Gomp GS', 2010 Raliegh Clubman
Pounding over frozen tire tracks, dropping into slush filled potholes and traversing cinder covered roadways is not going to las long on skinny tires and light rims....listen to the choir...."get thee a MTB!"
#13
Even a BoxMart MTB. The cheapest garage-sale/garbage-picked MTB would be better than subjecting your Schwinn to those duties!!! I have several 'beaters' that I've 'picked' off treelawn on garbage day!
__________________
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
Last edited by Cougrrcj; 09-17-13 at 01:45 PM.
#14
Senior Member

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,584
Likes: 107
From: Scranton, PA, USA
Bikes: '77 Centurion "Pro Tour"; '67 Carlton "The Flyer"; 1984 Ross MTB (stored at parents' house)
How are you going to brake with zip ties on the rims/tires?
I'm curious to see this with the cantilever studs welded on. I've thought of this modification on a junk commuter before, but never went through with it.
I'm curious to see this with the cantilever studs welded on. I've thought of this modification on a junk commuter before, but never went through with it.
#16
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 47
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, Michigan
Bikes: 1973 Schwinn Super Sport Sunset Orange, 1974 Le Tour Kool Lemon, 1974 Motobecane Nomade Sprint, 1981 SR Semi-Pro Blue
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there... I've been commuting on a vintage road bike through Detroit, Michigan for 5 years now I find the knobby tires just collect snow in the treads and I've never had an issue running Continental Gatorskins. I even rode 13 miles to work in 8" of freshly fallen snow...Only took 15 more minutes than usual.
#17
Still learning

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 11,529
Likes: 87
From: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Bikes: Still a garage full
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there... I've been commuting on a vintage road bike through Detroit, Michigan for 5 years now I find the knobby tires just collect snow in the treads and I've never had an issue running Continental Gatorskins. I even rode 13 miles to work in 8" of freshly fallen snow...Only took 15 more minutes than usual.
Hills and rolling terrain in Rochester, plus the snow is wetter/icier.
#18
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 47
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, Michigan
Bikes: 1973 Schwinn Super Sport Sunset Orange, 1974 Le Tour Kool Lemon, 1974 Motobecane Nomade Sprint, 1981 SR Semi-Pro Blue
There a quite a few hills in Rouge Park which is on my way to work, in fact the one on Spinoza @ Sawyer is fairly gnarly... As for the snow I had not thought about that...
#19
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 136
Likes: 1
From: somewhere in the upper midwest
Bikes: trek 330, 560, 720, 1500
Get a MTB. I was using an old Specialized Hard Rock till a driver last summer decided to run a stop sign. I still have it but I need to get a new grip shifter before the snow flies. I had switch over to some tires with less tread was making a run to Micky Dees when I had the accident.
#20
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 136
Likes: 1
From: somewhere in the upper midwest
Bikes: trek 330, 560, 720, 1500
#21
Senior Member


Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 7,951
Likes: 688
From: Port Angeles, WA
Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.
Go sit in the corner and think about what you said, young man.
__________________
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
#22
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 260
Likes: 0
Bikes: 200x Coppi w DuraAce 9, 82 Schwinn Voyager 11.2, 2004 DeBernardi Track, 83 Centurion Elite RS, and some others.
I'd do a single speed or possibly a suicide hub fixie. A fixed gear schwinn with very slack angles (and very big lights) was my favorite winter commuter. It gives you a great feel for road conditions through the pedals. Narrow tires work on cleared roads; I have frequently come to a stop and put my foot down, only to have my boot slide away from me.
My only trepidation would be learning to ride a fix with a pooch on the line. In fact, I don't know any good way to run a dog from a bike. How do you do it?
My only trepidation would be learning to ride a fix with a pooch on the line. In fact, I don't know any good way to run a dog from a bike. How do you do it?
#23
Get off my lawn!


Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6,035
Likes: 118
From: The Garden State
Bikes: 1917 Loomis, 1923 Rudge, 1930 Hercules Renown, 1947 Mclean, 1948 JA Holland, 1955 Hetchins, 1957 Carlton Flyer, 1962 Raleigh Sport, 1978&81 Raleigh Gomp GS', 2010 Raliegh Clubman
The point is, an MTB has a studier frame, you can run wider tires with fenders, the wheels sets will stand up to the abuse, you can run a shorter frame with a higher seatpost and headset to gain some stand over inches for those "holy crap!" dismount moments. Take a look at the MTB with drop bars thread, there are a whole bunch of winter bikes posted there. Many will be as fast or faster than a skinny tire bike on snow covered or wet roads.
#24
Senior Member


Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,473
Likes: 4,875
From: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, 86 De Rosa Pro, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Just get a long board skateboard and let the pooch pull. Ice skates/snowboard after that white stuff falls. 
seriously there is a guy in my neighborhood that does the skateboard thing and he and the dog look like the are having a blast but we don't have to worry about snow
seriously there is a guy in my neighborhood that does the skateboard thing and he and the dog look like the are having a blast but we don't have to worry about snow
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can.
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can.
#25
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 6
From: Rochester, NY
Bikes: 1962 Carlton Franco-Suisse Custom,1968 Raleigh DL-1/Tourist, 1971 Holdsworth Professional, 1973 Holdsworth Mistral,1973 Raleigh Gran Sport,1974 Raleigh Grand Prix, 1993 Trek 2200 Composite, 2011 Trek 7.3FX
i hold the leesh out far from my body, and my pooch knows the route, we've gotten pretty good at turning at the same time, and she doesn't wander to far from me... its alot of fun,
im not commuting with this thing, we are talking less then 3 miles of neighborhood riding... i think singlespeed is the way to go, ill post pictures when its done.. thanks for the help
im not commuting with this thing, we are talking less then 3 miles of neighborhood riding... i think singlespeed is the way to go, ill post pictures when its done.. thanks for the help




