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Old 12-23-13 | 03:50 AM
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I'll let you guys know how it goes with this frameset.

I'll order one after the holidays.

I have a fresh alloy Veloce gruppo sitting here purchased on another forum.

I ordered a set of H Plus Sons with 105 hubs on sale a month ago, so I'll see what I can rig up.

I have everything else as well, all scavenged off of our local CL .

Nitto Noodles, Paul Neo Retro/Touring, a Brooks Professional and some beat up Berthoud fenders.

Should be a fun, relatively inexpensive project.
Sounds just like the bike I would build.
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I'd feel a bit better if I knew whose tubing it was (Sankyo, Tange, Reynolds, TrueTemper, what not), and what factory actually built the thing.

Five Benjamins is a bit much for a frameset made in the ROC, even if they are building them pretty well now.
Taiwan is now the place where the finest mass produced bikes are made. There used to be a lot of crap from there, but that's no reason to expect to pay less than a fair price for a very good product. If this frame were made elsewhere, it would cost more, so why complain about the price when it's already a low price? This is not cheap crap.

Take a look at all the bike stuff made in Taiwan today. Find fault in it. It's not easy.
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Old 12-23-13 | 08:20 PM
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They posted some naked lug pics on their blog a few weeks ago. Looks like nice workmanship:
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Old 12-24-13 | 12:51 AM
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I'm in the middle of building one; waiting on 10s STI to arrive. I still need to fit fenders and lights, etc.


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There are a lot of things I like about this frame. I like their TA copy crankset on it like that too....well done all around so far.

I wish they had a blue version and I still don't like the pseudo head lugs.

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Old 12-24-13 | 06:49 AM
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Sounds just like the bike I would build.
I just want to hear some ride reports before I plunk down the cash.

I'll be building it for an old friend that is just getting back into bicycling and I think this looks like a wonderful way to hop back into the fun.

For not so many $$$$.

I think a front rack and a bag would really extend the usefulness of the bike as well.

I'm also curious to hear about fender recommendations, as I don't want to experiment that much with someone else's cash.
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Old 12-24-13 | 09:40 AM
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A very nice and good looking build. A better perspective with components installed. Looking forward to seeing this done.
If I was in the market for a versatile frameset I'd have to seriously consider this one.

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I still don't like the pseudo head lugs.
They look like lugs on the top & bottom of the head-tube...why are they pseudo?
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Old 12-24-13 | 09:02 PM
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They look like lugs on the top & bottom of the head-tube...why are they pseudo?
Because it isn't a lugged frame. It's a welded frame. It just seems pretentious unless they serve the purpose of holding the tubing together. Minor stuff I realize but it bugs me.
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There are a lot of things I like about this frame. I like their TA copy crankset on it like that too....well done all around so far.
Thanks, but that's not a Velo Orange crankset. It's a Stronglight 49d with TA rings.
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They posted some naked lug pics on their blog a few weeks ago. Looks like nice workmanship:
https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013...de-frames.html
I have to say that the look of the welds and the paint job on my VO Campeur is superb. The quality of the frame and the build parts is higher than the price I payed (in others words a great value). And the bike rides great.
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Old 12-25-13 | 12:26 AM
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Thanks, but that's not a Velo Orange crankset. It's a Stronglight 49d with TA rings.
Oh

Some subtle differences between the 3. I should have recognized the arm forging but VO copied that on another crankset, lol. That looks like the perfect matchup either way. I would've liked the red except that I've already got a red bike. Looks great though!

I still might still get one next year or the year after if I have the money to throw at it. They've come up with a "Camargue" frame as well now. Waiting to see what the rear dropout spacing is for that one.

https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013...e-is-here.html

Of course they picked a color I'm not interested in for it. Unless maybe they offer it in orange. By the time I get into one there will be more to choose from I'm sure.
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I just ordered one. I'll post pics when I build it up.
I would love to see some more builds, and read a ride report form anyone that has been able to spend time on one.
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I'm surprised that in five pages, nobody's yet mentioned comparing the Pass Hunter to it's obvious competition: the Taiwanese-made Soma Stanyan, with it's lovely Tange Prestige tubeset.

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Btw, I'm with Lamplight about the VO framesets; they're pretty nice, but there have always been one or two things that have kept me from seriously considering one. With the Polyvalent, it's the shorter chainstays; with the Campeur, there isn't a 650b option (and in 700c, I'd personally rather have an old Trek Cirrus or 620, if not a Koga or Miyata GT frame). In the case of the Pass Hunter, while that biplane fork IS admittedly very sexy, I think I'd still prefer the Stanyan, even though it is about $150 more.

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... that biplane fork IS admittedly very sexy...
It certainly is... if anyone just made a sloped top plane fork, like the Ritchey and Specialized copies...
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I'm surprised that in five pages, nobody's yet mentioned comparing the Pass Hunter to it's obvious competition: the Taiwanese-made Soma Stanyan, with it's lovely Tange Prestige tubeset.
My Stanyan is a nice frameset but the spec is more in the old school British club rider's design w/ 28mm max clearance & fenders and caliper brakes. Mine functions as a modern substitute for my International; versatile, lively, lugged & light enough.
If I needed more clearance the Pass Hunter would be worth a look.

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Originally Posted by acoffin
I would love to see some more builds, and read a ride report form anyone that has been able to spend time on one.

I haven't taken pics yet, because mine's not 100% done, and with the current weather I haven't ridden it as much as I would like. However I did get it on a couple of 25+ mile rides and I like it a lot. It feels very solid. It's one of those bikes where you're not thinking about how springy or stiff or whatever it is, because it just feels solid (not heavy) and steady. It's very nice.
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Originally Posted by Bandera
If I needed more clearance the Pass Hunter would be worth a look.

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Ah- I see: so- for you guys, the allure is as much in the Pass Hunter's tire clearance as it is in the modern/retro lugged design, then? I guess I can understand that.
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Ah- I see: so- for you guys, the allure is as much in the Pass Hunter's tire clearance as it is in the modern/retro lugged design, then? I guess I can understand that.
What appeals to me are the canti bosses and ability to run fat-ish 700c tires. I have enough road bikes, really. Combining off pavement capabilities with the nature of a well mannered road bike seems like something that might be worth the money for me.
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I'm surprised that in five pages, nobody's yet mentioned comparing the Pass Hunter to it's obvious competition: the Taiwanese-made Soma Stanyan...

...for you guys, the allure is as much in the Pass Hunter's tire clearance as it is in the modern/retro lugged design, then? I guess I can understand that.
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My Stanyan is a nice frameset but the spec is more in the old school British club rider's design w/ 28mm max clearance & fenders and caliper brakes.
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What appeals to me are the canti bosses and ability to run fat-ish 700c tires. I have enough road bikes, really. Combining off pavement capabilities with the nature of a well mannered road bike seems like something that might be worth the money for me.
This is a very interesting conversation.
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Hey- we're like week-old 7-11 hot dogs: "the franks with experience."
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Hey- we're like week-old 7-11 hot dogs: "the franks with experience."
That just made me shudder.

Probably a little more than 'gas station sushi'
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The best tuna sandwich I ever had was at a gas station. Of course, it was in Paris. It was super hot, and we had been riding all day and had waited too long to eat, so for all I know, it wasn't even very good. But it sure hit the spot.
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I'm surprised that in five pages, nobody's yet mentioned comparing the Pass Hunter to it's obvious competition: the Taiwanese-made Soma Stanyan, with it's lovely Tange Prestige tubeset.
Wow

I didn't even know they made this beautiful chrome lugged frame until just reading this. That's more of a standard road frame but I certainly do like it a lot. If I didn't have a build to finish with this spring's bonus check I'd certainly be sinking my money into that one.
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