View Poll Results: Would you?
Forget biking, commute by car



2
3.64%
Take the Panasonic



19
34.55%
Take the Lotus once fixed



15
27.27%
Get another bike



19
34.55%
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Commuting on your C&V
#76
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Ride the Lotus or whatever C&V bike you like. I ride my C&V, it has over $1,000 in it, I'd be very sad if it were stolen but I make sure the odds of theft are low and that's all you can do.
Remember fenders (I use PDW Full Metal Fenders, they look nice on a C&V road bike, and are solid metal not plastic) and lights (don't be a ninja).
Get two quality and large U-locks, use one on the rear wheel and triangle, the other on the front wheel and downtube. If the bike rack doesn't quite allow that, find some other locking method that will force a thief to cut through both U-locks to take the frame. Mark the U-locks with your name/phone and leave them attached to the bike rack so you don't have to carry them, their weight and bulk now doesn't matter. Unless someone really really wants your bike - and why would they, it is just an "old bike" - they won't bother dealing with that hassle.
Carry a small U-lock (the kind that just fits a frame tube + bike rack) in your backpack for those errands on the way home.
Finally, while I have never heard of anyone actually getting paid on the "guarantees" that some U-lock companies offer, it might be amusing to do the necessary to get paid if your bike is stolen. E.g. the Kryptonite terms and conditinos are here
https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Docum...CONDITIONS.pdf
and include
[I]Requirements in the event of a theft:
1. Report the theft to the police within 72 hours.
2. Mail or email notice of the theft to Kryptonite within seven (7) days of the theft.
3. Immediately report the theft to your insurance company, if covered by insurance.
4. Mail or email the following to Kryptonite within ninety (90) days: broken lock and/or broken links– required as proof of product failure (Note: We recommend that you return the entire lock if available so that we can better understand how the product failed), [ii] at least one (1) key, [iii] a copy of the official police report, [iv] a copy of your itemized lock bill of sale, [v] a copy of your bicycle/powersport bill of sale, not including accessories, or a dated and signed dealer appraisal reflecting the market value of the bicycle/powersport vehicle, not including accessories, and [vi] evidence you have notified your insurance company, if covered by insurance. Failure to forward all materials within ninety (90) days will void your claim and Kryptonite will have no further responsibility under this Offer. Certified mail, return receipt is recommended since Kryptonite is not responsible for non-receipt of mail.
Remember fenders (I use PDW Full Metal Fenders, they look nice on a C&V road bike, and are solid metal not plastic) and lights (don't be a ninja).
Get two quality and large U-locks, use one on the rear wheel and triangle, the other on the front wheel and downtube. If the bike rack doesn't quite allow that, find some other locking method that will force a thief to cut through both U-locks to take the frame. Mark the U-locks with your name/phone and leave them attached to the bike rack so you don't have to carry them, their weight and bulk now doesn't matter. Unless someone really really wants your bike - and why would they, it is just an "old bike" - they won't bother dealing with that hassle.
Carry a small U-lock (the kind that just fits a frame tube + bike rack) in your backpack for those errands on the way home.
Finally, while I have never heard of anyone actually getting paid on the "guarantees" that some U-lock companies offer, it might be amusing to do the necessary to get paid if your bike is stolen. E.g. the Kryptonite terms and conditinos are here
https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Docum...CONDITIONS.pdf
and include
[I]Requirements in the event of a theft:
1. Report the theft to the police within 72 hours.
2. Mail or email notice of the theft to Kryptonite within seven (7) days of the theft.
3. Immediately report the theft to your insurance company, if covered by insurance.
4. Mail or email the following to Kryptonite within ninety (90) days: broken lock and/or broken links– required as proof of product failure (Note: We recommend that you return the entire lock if available so that we can better understand how the product failed), [ii] at least one (1) key, [iii] a copy of the official police report, [iv] a copy of your itemized lock bill of sale, [v] a copy of your bicycle/powersport bill of sale, not including accessories, or a dated and signed dealer appraisal reflecting the market value of the bicycle/powersport vehicle, not including accessories, and [vi] evidence you have notified your insurance company, if covered by insurance. Failure to forward all materials within ninety (90) days will void your claim and Kryptonite will have no further responsibility under this Offer. Certified mail, return receipt is recommended since Kryptonite is not responsible for non-receipt of mail.
What do you guys think of this OnGuard Akita 20mm lock?
https://images.motorcycle-superstore....Cable_Lock.jpg
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I think I could cut that with my bolt cutters in about 30 seconds. Please don't use cable locks on a nice C&V.
Motorcycles use wimpy cable locks because they are actually harder to steal than bicycles. They weigh 500 lbs, can't be ridden w/o defeating the ignition, can't easily be picked up and tossed into a van, their VINs are tracked by DMVs, stealing one is grand theft motor vehicle.
Motorcycles use wimpy cable locks because they are actually harder to steal than bicycles. They weigh 500 lbs, can't be ridden w/o defeating the ignition, can't easily be picked up and tossed into a van, their VINs are tracked by DMVs, stealing one is grand theft motor vehicle.
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jyl, it depends on the surroundings. Until this summer, I lived in a tony suburb, and you can lock a bike with anything there except at the train station. I used a thin cable lock, and I never had a problem. I've even seen ski locks used there. I don't know about Luis's surroundings, but I just wanted to say that the environment is a big part of the equation. No lock is appropriate for every situation. Carrying unnecessary weight is best avoided. I think I'm going to downgrade my lock, because it's too heavy.
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#79
Sorry, I'm lazy today so not reading the entire thread before posting...
Commuting on a c&v bike is the way to go IMO. But riding a NR equipped classic on which you like to prevent paint damage and such is a bit of a burden. So commute on a sweet frame, which has some patina and is equipped with say Shimano 105 7speed with DT shifters. You can easily do some substantial mileage and with a big smile on your face, cause of the smooth drivetrain and shifting. Getting it stolen would be a disaster, but you'll always have those other bikes which will really make one suicidal when they're stolen. So it's not the end of the world. Yet.
Just make sure your lock(s) is high end stuff. And wax the frame to give it some protection from the great outdoors.
Happy commuting!
Commuting on a c&v bike is the way to go IMO. But riding a NR equipped classic on which you like to prevent paint damage and such is a bit of a burden. So commute on a sweet frame, which has some patina and is equipped with say Shimano 105 7speed with DT shifters. You can easily do some substantial mileage and with a big smile on your face, cause of the smooth drivetrain and shifting. Getting it stolen would be a disaster, but you'll always have those other bikes which will really make one suicidal when they're stolen. So it's not the end of the world. Yet.
Just make sure your lock(s) is high end stuff. And wax the frame to give it some protection from the great outdoors.
Happy commuting!




