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Upcharge?
So I bid on some hubs and noticed the $24 shipping charge from Maine...then noticed this:
Frame and Wheel Product Analysis and Service Frame and Wheel includes a product analysis and service (PAAS) charge in the shipping cost. The PAAS charge is what the buyer pays Frame and Wheel for making the effort to obtain the item, clean the item, make sure it works properly, make repairs if needed, take many good pictures of it, describe it accurately and thoroughly, provide an opinion about it, purchase custom made boxes (if the item is a high value wheel set or frame set), pack it carefully, ship it within one day of the auction closing, offer 14 days return policy and respond to emails quickly. Frame and Wheel believes that buyers should pay for better than average descriptions, faster than average shipping and professional service. Product analysis and service (PAAS) charge Item PAAS charge ($) Packaging Bicycles 90 to 120 Bike box Framesets 40 to 90 Frame box Power meters 75 Box CompuTrainers 75 Box Bike racks 60 Box Trailers 40 Custom box Wheel set 40 to 90 Wheel box Wheel 20 to 80 Wheel box Bike boxes 30 Shrink wrap Trainers & rollers 25 Custom box Wetsuits 20 Box Accessories 10 to 20 Box Components 10 to 30 Box or bubble wrap Others 5 box or bubble wrap Oversized or speciality items 150 to 250 Custom box or pallet |
wow...
not sure is memory serves correctly, but isn't that a violation of ebay policies somehow? |
Seems a bit excessively greedy.
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Thats just normal stuff you do before putting stuff on Ebay. Thats what people pay you for, I take it Ebay wont be putting up with that kind of BS for long.
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Genius. With some clever wording they get people to pay them for doing what every other seller has to do too. Paying them to list an item. Amazing.
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Needless to say I withdrew my bid....
$26.55 to ship hubs $27.33 for shoes $15.50 for tights $16.68 for a used cassette $29.84 for a handlebar |
Thank goodness. I was about to ask if you withdraw it. I wonder if that is against some ebay policy?
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Very deceptive. They're putting cost that should be in the item into the shipping. If they need to get a bare minimum for the item, they should just start the bidding near that price.
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Originally Posted by shoota
(Post 16277597)
I wonder if that is against some ebay policy?
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I wonder if there paying Velobase since they link there auctions to them for more info.
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Where's the "washing of hands to not transfer fingerprints to value-added product" charge?
Or the "Sufficient digit pressure to input research data via keyboard surcharge" ? Or the "Usage of recyclable Green materials for packaging fee"? LOL! |
Breaking news: eBay sellers try to circumvent fees, update at 11, only on FoxNews!
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
(Post 16277732)
Breaking news: eBay sellers try to circumvent fees, update at 11, only on FoxNews!
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Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 16277777)
He's not circumventing anything by doing that.....
Nope, he's just hoping you don't notice it until after you win the auction. |
Good thing you decided to PAAS. Their acronym almost makes it seem legitimate.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect
(Post 16277831)
Nope, he's just hoping you don't notice it until after you win the auction.
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Thank God they aren't charging for sprinkling with Holy water. Now that would be just plain wrong.
He should offer a BS discount though. |
Originally Posted by lostarchitect
(Post 16277600)
If they need to get a bare minimum for the item, they should just start the bidding near that price.
Final cost is final cost no matter how you slice it. |
Originally Posted by rootboy
(Post 16277872)
Thank God they aren't charging for sprinkling with Holy water. Now that would be just plain wrong.
He should offer a BS discount though. |
Originally Posted by iab
(Post 16277890)
Does it matter?
Final cost is final cost no matter how you slice it. |
When I was selling stuff on eBay I would list an honest shipping estimate and if it was over what I quoted I ate the difference. Higher dollar items would have the option of a Buy It Now price that included free shipping and if the item was bid beyond a certain amount I would also ship free.
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Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 16277520)
Needless to say I withdrew my bid....
$26.55 to ship hubs $27.33 for shoes $15.50 for tights $16.68 for a used cassette $29.84 for a handlebar Seems like they're tooting their own horn and charging you for the privilege of hearing it. DD |
So basically a "charge" to do what I've always done in order to determine that a part is worthy of positive feedback. This guy is simply a scammer hidden behind fees, like any bank, cable company, or whatever. The good news is that you don't need this clown like you might a bank or cable company.
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Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 16278925)
It sure does....because I pulled my bid. At the end of the day X is X but I'm not going to support a seller who plays games.
It is obvious many who have posted here do these services for free. Many sellers on ebay don't do any of the services offered. As lostarchitect pointed out, it would have been more "acceptable" to put those fees into a minimum bid. But bottom line this guy or gal was completely transparent. Bottom line is bottom line. I don't see any game at all. |
A buyer could give a low rating in the feedback thing relating to "reasonable cost of shipping". Otherwise, the seller is being fairly honest about it. It's a crappy way to do things, but they're not hiding it, much.
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