Moto progress
#26
Death fork? Naaaah!!

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You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Since the subject has come up... I tried a (EDIT) 26.4 on the Moto and it fit like fine machinery.
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Can I have a 25.8? Or a 26.2? How about a 25.6? 
Just yankin' your Sedis!
Isn't it weird that seatposts come in increments of .2mm? Are there any exceptions to this "observed" rule?
Jim, your Moto ProComp Suntour left NH yesterday. If it feels colder than an Antarctic summer when you open the box, that's because it was -18F here yesterday!

Just yankin' your Sedis!
Isn't it weird that seatposts come in increments of .2mm? Are there any exceptions to this "observed" rule?Jim, your Moto ProComp Suntour left NH yesterday. If it feels colder than an Antarctic summer when you open the box, that's because it was -18F here yesterday!
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#30
There must always be exceptions, Pastor Bob! - There are no exceptions to this rule!
- - From Sheldon's seat post size database:
Bianchi Giro 1987 27.7
Miyata 610 1980 26.7
- The Schwinn Continental & Varsity took 21.15 but that's really 13/16"
PS- There are some odd large-diameter posts listed for modern bikes, but I considered them irrelevant.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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A quick progress update. Given today's weather I managed to do round one of the sew-up gluing. (Man, that stuff is stringy. Handle with care. A clue - wear disposable gloves, a hint from my sweetie doing early garden planting while I did bike stuff.) I should be able to complete it tomorrow, adjust and tighten everything, then take it for a ride! As soon as the snow goes away. Like maybe in a few months. Hey, progress is progress.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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I took this baby out for a spin around the block today. Okay, so I ended up going around more than once.

I may decided to replace that Vx RD with a VGT-Luxe in the parts bin. Otherwise, wow, that's a nice rider. (Tires pumped up to about 175psi.)

I may decided to replace that Vx RD with a VGT-Luxe in the parts bin. Otherwise, wow, that's a nice rider. (Tires pumped up to about 175psi.)
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Looks nice Jim... I hope to see it next time we catch up with each other.
We need to plan another outing.
We need to plan another outing.
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If I own it, I ride it


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You might like the ride even more if you drop the tire pressure a bit. I am 200+ and don't ride that high.
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As with you, I prefer lower pressures, but I don't think we're going to convince Jim lower pressure is better.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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It's okay, guys. Those are Vittoria sew-ups apparently with latex tubes. They will be down to 120 by tomorrow morning all by themselves.
They are rated for 115 to 200psi. I can't get 200 in 'em. I ain't heavy enough.
They are rated for 115 to 200psi. I can't get 200 in 'em. I ain't heavy enough.
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Good to see you here again. It's been months since I've crossed paths with one of your posts. Hope to see more!

You should consider heading to Cape Cod the last weekend in April. Looks like we're getting a great group together including Michael and Tom and spouses coming up from NYC and area. Should be fun. I'm planning to head there Friday morning and stay through Sunday afternoon.
Jim, the Moto is Wow! More like
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#43
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Thanks, all, for the nice comments on the Moto. It's been a fun project. This is the one I was looking for ID help on a few months ago, finally decided it was a repainted '74 CT (or TC if you believe the catalogs). It handles like a high-end bike for sure, similar to the Masi though I haven't really pushed it hard enough to know.
Yes, that is the 5-speed ProCompe (or whatever 5-speed you sent me). And after I've finally become accustomed to running with 6 I now have to learn 5 all over again. It'll be like the old days.
The crank has TA rings but the arms are actually Nervar which I got from rhm. Long history with those rings. I'd bought them for Sharon's bike long ago, later sent them to rhm. He recently returned the rings and sent me those Nervar arms. They look sharp and seem to work well. Plus, they are French!
Dallas, it has been a while, and yes we do need to do more riding together. Good to see you posting again.
Yes, that is the 5-speed ProCompe (or whatever 5-speed you sent me). And after I've finally become accustomed to running with 6 I now have to learn 5 all over again. It'll be like the old days.
The crank has TA rings but the arms are actually Nervar which I got from rhm. Long history with those rings. I'd bought them for Sharon's bike long ago, later sent them to rhm. He recently returned the rings and sent me those Nervar arms. They look sharp and seem to work well. Plus, they are French!
Dallas, it has been a while, and yes we do need to do more riding together. Good to see you posting again.
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Looks sharp Jim! I like the french crank and the blue tape and housing look great with the frame color!
Tire pressure sounds high to me too, but I know you like to run your tires high. As a point of comparison, I run my tires at 105 psi.
Tire pressure sounds high to me too, but I know you like to run your tires high. As a point of comparison, I run my tires at 105 psi.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Tires high, tires low,
Long as they will let me go,
Never flatting, well, almost never,
Feels like they could roll forever.
I like the feel of a firm tire. Okay, maybe 175 is a bit much.
Long as they will let me go,
Never flatting, well, almost never,
Feels like they could roll forever.
I like the feel of a firm tire. Okay, maybe 175 is a bit much.
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175, I've never heard of that, especially on the road.
Where'd you get the blue housings?
I used Newbaum's tape for the first time today. Nicer than Tressostar!
What is that cheap saddle you like so much?
Here's a tip: buy a batch of acid brushes from Amazon or the plumbing supply aisle at the Home Despot. They're about a dime each. Apply tubular glue with a brush, and then throw it away.
Where'd you get the blue housings?
I used Newbaum's tape for the first time today. Nicer than Tressostar!
What is that cheap saddle you like so much?
Here's a tip: buy a batch of acid brushes from Amazon or the plumbing supply aisle at the Home Despot. They're about a dime each. Apply tubular glue with a brush, and then throw it away.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Okay, all seriousness aside, the tires are marked 115-200. I wanted to see what that felt like. Didn't ride far enough to tell much. I probably won't ever run them like that, but I do like 140-145psi in the clincher version of this tire (Open Corsa) on the Masi.
The blue housing came from Harris Cyclery, about 10 minutes from the house. I just go in and ask.
For spreading the glue, I used a thin disposable glove. Fingers do pretty well for most things.
Tom, that saddle is a WTB Speed V. Ubiquitous, comfortable, inexpensive, lightweight. What's not to love?
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Jim, great looking Moto! I with you on the finger application of glue, much more control and much easier. Which glue do you use? A couple of years ago I used Panaracer glue then changed to Vittoria Mastik one, which was much easier to apply and has a better rating.
I will have to try higher preassure, I have be running 110.
I will have to try higher preassure, I have be running 110.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Thank you.
I used Vittoria. Don't recall seeing any other designation on the tube but there probably was one. Since I've never done this before I followed the recommendation and instructions of BF member JJScaliger (except for tire choice and pressure). I figure why run sew-ups if they aren't good ones.
I have that other Moto still to go, still unwrapped. It will use sew-ups too. Might as well be prepared.
I used Vittoria. Don't recall seeing any other designation on the tube but there probably was one. Since I've never done this before I followed the recommendation and instructions of BF member JJScaliger (except for tire choice and pressure). I figure why run sew-ups if they aren't good ones.
I have that other Moto still to go, still unwrapped. It will use sew-ups too. Might as well be prepared.
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Don't know JJScaliger method. They are all pretty much the same. I have left about 1 inch of the rim without glue opposite the valve stem. Usually between spoke holes. I have forgotten about the space and spread the glue over the base tape so there is some adhesion. Although, in some cases, there is a little noise initially, like glued parts pulling apart, at least I have spot where I can get a plastic tire lever under the tube for removal. My thumb joints aren't what they use to be and having a spot to start is very helpful. On a warm day, the noise goes away and usually stay gone.




