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Joco resto
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357400Hi all and happy new year.
I have a 1930's joco frame in great nick which I'll be working on this year. A guy in holland, Herbert Kuner, has helped a lot with dating it and giving me some history but what I need now is a feel for these bikes, colours, decals and kit etc etc If anyone has a joco or even just some images please post. My feel is I won't be able to go back to original group sets etc and will end up with a campy groupset..... Thanks in advance all. Andy |
Looks very cool, almost looks like it has a ceramic coating.
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It's currently got a great quality paint job but it doesn't feel close enough to original so it'll be painted again......I think........but I'm not sure yet because it is a cool looking colour.
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Nice, a Joco thread. :)
I coincidentally found myself a Joco bike recently which I am working on to 'restore'. A much later example, i think late 60's, coming from a Hilversum estate. There have been made some changes to the original specs but I will at least keep the Mafac brakes and Titan post for sure and have found a nice Titan stem and Maes barset. http://i40.tinypic.com/28j8tas.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/rtq5b9.jpg I met the very nice mister Kuner once by the way and got this little Joco brochure from 1937. http://i44.tinypic.com/1se5x0.jpg It contains a list of all the different items the shop had in store. I will try to make a nice set of pics for you so you know with wich cmponents your bike could be fitted :D I am sure it wil be extremely nice but virtually impossible to restore it to original specs. |
Nice find! You should post this in the 'Dutch Invasion'-thread. There are some folks there who know a great deal about Joco who can help you finding original colours and spec. Btw back in those days there was no such thing as a complete group set. So maybe you're able to find and fit components that look the part...
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Haha Pullup's already in!
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Already picking up some good info. Btw pullup, your joco looks like a nice classic bike, the decals look nice and simple. Is it reynolds tubing?
i note that pretty much every joco I have seen has solid colours with nice lug detailing, although this may be aftermarket custom work. olympic rings also feature a lot, Titan and mafac look to be quite common also (thanks pullup) any my more joco info or detail would be great, cheers all. |
Well, Joco's could also be very colorful, like this Ronde van Europa:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-UCDDAPQQ.jpg |
I think that is the coolest paint job on a bike I have ever seen!! And it looks like my size too! Serious case of bike envy...
Originally Posted by non-fixie
(Post 16372506)
Well, Joco's could also be very colorful, like this Ronde van Europa:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-UCDDAPQQ.jpg |
Originally Posted by non-fixie
(Post 16372506)
Well, Joco's could also be very colorful, like this Ronde van Europa
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
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That is a very nice and colorful bike! Yours?
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
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No, way too small. I think it came up for sale a while back. Kept the pic for my files, just as a point of reference for when something like this shows up in 61-63 cm ...
This one is on marktplaats right now but it was quickly reserved. A Joco from 1949 http://i44.tinypic.com/1238n7p.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/160eqa9.jpg |
Originally Posted by non-fixie
(Post 16372645)
No, way too small. I think it came up for sale a while back. Kept the pic for my files, just as a point of reference for when something like this shows up in 61-63 cm ...
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Bugger, can't see non fixes image, the orange frame looks more like what imagined a joco to look like, nice solid colour, Olympic Rings (easy to source), tubing/lug decal (possibly reynolds and again, easy to source) and a joco decal.......sourcing one of these will be my biggest challenge.
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Originally Posted by Andybrads
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357400Hi all and happy new year.
I have a 1930's joco frame in great nick which I'll be working on this year. A guy in holland, Herbert Kuner, has helped a lot with dating it and giving me some history but what I need now is a feel for these bikes, colours, decals and kit etc etc If anyone has a joco or even just some images please post. My feel is I won't be able to go back to original group sets etc and will end up with a campy groupset..... Thanks in advance all. Andy |
Originally Posted by Andybrads
(Post 16372736)
Bugger, can't see non fixes image, the orange frame looks more like what imagined a joco to look like, nice solid colour, Olympic Rings (easy to source), tubing/lug decal (possibly reynolds and again, easy to source) and a joco decal.......sourcing one of these will be my biggest challenge.
Have a look http://www.marktplaats.nl/verkopers/16865346.html |
Originally Posted by Andybrads
(Post 16372736)
Bugger, can't see non fixes image, the orange frame looks more like what imagined a joco to look like, nice solid colour, Olympic Rings (easy to source), tubing/lug decal (possibly reynolds and again, easy to source) and a joco decal.......sourcing one of these will be my biggest challenge.
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[MENTION=361640]Andybrads[/MENTION]: does this work better for you? Those colors are not to be missed ...
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357434 |
Wow, not familiar with the site.
is it a Dutch buy/sell site?, May need some help with translation. i have looked and the joco text along with the joco seat tube badge look nice and subtle. colonel, it does seem to be in good nick for its age but the lugs and the frame number (31315) date it between 1936 and 1937 non fixie, yes. Those colours are wild, thanks. As you say......far from 'solid colour' |
Originally Posted by non-fixie
(Post 16372783)
@Andybrads: does this work better for you? Those colors are not to be missed ...
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357434 |
Originally Posted by Andybrads
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Wow, not familiar with the site.
is it a Dutch buy/sell site?, May need some help with translation. i have looked and the joco text along with the joco seat tube badge look nice and subtle. colonel, it does seem to be in good nick for its age but the lugs and the frame number (31315) date it between 1936 and 1937 non fixie, yes. Those colours are wild, thanks. As you say......far from 'solid colour' |
Well this is becoming a nice Joco thread so it could not be without the beautiful Joco Wouter showed on BF a couple of months ago.
http://i43.tinypic.com/vific2.jpg Apparently a barnfind from somewhere in the north of France. |
Originally Posted by Andybrads
(Post 16372796)
Wow, not familiar with the site.
is it a Dutch buy/sell site?, May need some help with translation. i have looked and the joco text along with the joco seat tube badge look nice and subtle. colonel, it does seem to be in good nick for its age but the lugs and the frame number (31315) date it between 1936 and 1937 non fixie, yes. Those colours are wild, thanks. As you say......far from 'solid colour' |
Thanks nonfixie, mail sent.
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Originally Posted by Andybrads
(Post 16372796)
colonel, it does seem to be in good nick for its age but the lugs and the frame number (31315) date it between 1936 and 1937
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Maybe not, doesn't really mean too much to me to be truthful.
the frame number dates it at a certain point in time, the lugs may, or may not. regardless, with some time and effort it will be a lovely bike. Thanks andy |
Hi all
Small update, thanks to non fixies outstanding help and guidance I have now sourced some original decals, along with H Lloyds help over here in the UK I now have joco decals, a full set of Olympic Rings, the correct reynolds decal and a small Dutch flag which I'll discretely place as appropriate before the frame is lacquered. i was at a large bike jumble this week trying to source a set of titan bars and stem but was unable to find some so will probably go with a milremo sport stem and old cinelli bars. as I plan to put some decent miles in on this bike I'll probably go with an older campag groupset, not sure on the rims but I did manage to pick up a really nice set of maillard hubs from a work colleague so that's something I'll have to research. The frame will be prepped for paint next month so pic cites on their way as and when andy |
Originally Posted by PedalTraveler
(Post 16372595)
I think that is the coolest paint job on a bike I have ever seen!! And it looks like my size too! Serious case of bike envy...
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Bike porn....:lol:
I have some work to do on the frame so it needs to be re sprayed with the correct decals, I can't be 100% on the model so I'll be leaving it quite simple. The paint job will look a little like this old Viking http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=359694 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=359693 |
Hi all
Quick update on the joco resto. frame has now been restored and sprayed up with original decals, pick it up next week. have sourced nuovo record cranks, bb, headset, derailleur, post, hubs, brake levers and dt shifters. Mavic rims, milremo stem, gb drops and a brooks saddle (although I might use a San Marco/selle saddle) at a bike jumble tomorrow looking for calipers and pedals, then it's the build. ill post piccies as soon as I get the frame back. |
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