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Show us your C&V with a 120 mm rear hub.

Old 01-03-14, 08:55 PM
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Show us your C&V with a 120 mm rear hub.

I feel a strong need for a real classic with a 120 mm rear hub. Show me the depth and breadth of what that means.
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That's oddly specific.
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Old 01-03-14, 09:37 PM
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most bikes before 1980 probably fit the category. i have two, and they're beautiful.

with that said, i prefer 126mm spacing, allowing for a 6 cog, 12-speed. it's the additional high gear that i usually appreciate most often.
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That's oddly specific.
It was at one time the norm.
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I wanted to put Ergolevers on my 1974 PX10LE, what with it being such a hyper animal with it's steep frame angles.

These frames typically measure 121mm, so my trusty, old Phil wheelset slipped right in:




Not quite happy with the 14-28t, 5-speed FW that I needed to go along with the bike's 45t small chainring, I built up a slightly wider-axled hub/wheel for it, which fit a 7-speed FW (had to alter the rear derailer again) with an overlocknut-width of 124mm, to easily slip into the Pug's dropouts. Call it a half-assed 120mm bike, ok?

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Are not 10 speeds enough? Next thing you know we will be riding carbon fiber and aluminum?
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Guess I AM getting a bit jaded....ONLY 5!?! Seems like not enough! Looks wimpy!
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Back in the day a 5 speed freewheel and 2 chain rings gave us a lot of choices.
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If some guys can ride single speeds, a 5 speed block should certainly be the cat's meow.
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A late 60's Paramount would be my grail bike. A sleeper 531 might fit the budget. Cottered cranks are not what I have in mind. Stronglight cranksets are a plus. Campy Gran Sport would be cool.
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Originally Posted by RubberLegs View Post
Guess I AM getting a bit jaded....ONLY 5!?! Seems like not enough! Looks wimpy!
That's pretty cool, definitely a bit older than mine. I don't recall my exact model, but it's a very similarly named Regina 5-speed. I've been using an old Shimano for awhile now, after reading here at C&V, that they're probably the best-shifting, and I think I agree. BTW, my old Frejus might very well be 120 but a 126 axle still fits very well.
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Well, with the Pug's half-step chainrings and the very hilly terrain here, a very wide-ranging 14-28t 5-speeder was just taxing my legs too much to hang with the faster groups, so a less-gappy 7-speed freewheel gave me exactly what I needed and little more.

The 7-speed also happens to match the 8-speed Ergo cog-spacing requirements, so a Campy derailer could be put back on.

This here is a 5-speed freewheel setup that gets me around at speed, here in the hills. It requires one double-shift in the sequence to extract a full 7 sequential, reasonably "tight" ratios, but I did get up to speed on it (with considerable practice, tuning and yes, more practice!). It uses 52x36t and 13-24t. Finally I can say that I did it, it was my cycling goal of early 2013.

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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
...with that said, i prefer 126mm spacing, allowing for a 6 cog, 12-speed. it's the additional high gear that i usually appreciate most often.
Narrow spaced SunTour Ultra or Maillard Compact 6-speed freewheels were made for 120mm rear ends.
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I never liked the shifting quality of Ultra-6 freewheels back in the day, but rode on them and even had a couple of customs built up on Pro-Compe bodies iir.

But I've become a fan (and small hoarder) of U-6 freewheels in recent years, after finding out how amazingly well that they can shift using 9-speed chains, chains that weren't available back in the day, but which have allowed U6 freewheels to make a comeback around here.
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Yep, I use a 50-34 in the front, with a 14-28 cluster. I mostly use the small 34, along with the higher 3 gears in back, & that gets me up most hills, that I want to try, anyways.
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I just posted this in another thread:


Here's another, also posted recently in another thread:


And another in progress, but actually 124mm with a 5-speed FW:
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A few people are now offering a 120mm freehub. I've been tempted to see how many 9 or 10spd cogs I can cram on one.
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird View Post
A few people are now offering a 120mm freehub. I've been tempted to see how many 9 or 10spd cogs I can cram on one.
...that would be handy, because decent quality 5 speed Crit cogged
freewheels are getting harder and harder to come by in the used/recycled
stuff that shows up here. Most of what i see is wide range 12/28 and 12/30.

I guess I could try recogging a couple, but they are usually on there pretty good.
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brilliant post. these look my size. px-10? how many bikes do you have as nice as these three? and have you yet named beneficiaries?
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Sleeper 531? 120mm? 1971/72?

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How about an early 50's Stucchi

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brilliant post. these look my size. px-10? how many bikes do you have as nice as these three? and have you yet named beneficiaries?
...my wife says she's gonna sell every darn one of them at a yard sale for 50 bucks apiece after I croak, so check the obits here in Sacramento every couple of weeks.
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My only 120mm rear spaced bike from 1972.
Phil Wood 1st gen hubs front and rear with a 5 speed Zeus 2000 aluminum FW.
I first thought that the hub/FW combination would be troublesome when I could not fit my splined FW remover over the enlarged tip of the aluminum axle, but thankfully through informational help from the C&V forum, I found out that I could easily tap off the drive half of the axle from the hub to get it out of the way.

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That Phil is NICE!
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