Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Question about changing freewheel on Schwinn Le Tour

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Question about changing freewheel on Schwinn Le Tour

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-30-14, 10:30 AM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Question about changing freewheel on Schwinn Le Tour

I have a 1981 Japanese 10-spd Schwinn Le Tour with a broken tooth in one of the 5 speed Shimano sprockets. I know I need to replace the whole freewheel and my chain. Does anyone know if I can replace this with any 5 speed freewheel, or are there specific ones that fit the Japanese-made Schwinns?

I saw a French-made Schwinn 5 spd freewheel on ebay, but wasn't sure if it would fit right. I've also seen a lot of Shimano FF assemblies. I'm new to bikes and bike repair, so I don't want to screw it up or order parts that don't fit. Would love to get some advice from knowledgeable folks such as yourselves.

Also, any recs on where to find what I need other than ebay? Thanks!
gordonsf is offline  
Old 01-30-14, 10:48 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Lascauxcaveman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Port Angeles, WA
Posts: 7,922

Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.

Mentioned: 194 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1627 Post(s)
Liked 630 Times in 356 Posts
Originally Posted by gordonsf
I know I need to replace the whole freewheel and my chain.
Is the chain skipping or otherwise not working properly? If the bike is riding and shifting without any problems I wouldn't worry about it, just make sure everything is lubed and reasonably clean and keep riding it. Freewheel cogs and chainrings are like hockey players; they can often still perform quite well with a missing tooth or two

As for changing the freewheel, you just need the right freewheel remover tool (available at your local bike shop, or on the big auction website, or any other number of online places that sell bike parts) and a way to hold it (bench vise works best) and know which way to spin it (counterclockwise, with the tool in vise and the wheel set down on the tool). Although your LBS might do this for you for free, especially if you buy the new chain and freewheel from them.
__________________
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●


Last edited by Lascauxcaveman; 01-30-14 at 01:52 PM.
Lascauxcaveman is offline  
Old 01-30-14, 11:06 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,347

Bikes: Fillet-brazed Schwinns

Mentioned: 60 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 208 Post(s)
Liked 17 Times in 14 Posts
I believe the '81 Le Tour came originally with a 14-28T freewheel with a gold finish. That was English 1.37" x 24 tpi threading, which is the most common type there is. Any 5-speed freewheel with that same threading will fit, and if you stay at 28T or less on the low gear you won't have to change the derailleur. You can get compatible new 5-speed freewheels from Harris and IRD.

Last edited by Metacortex; 01-31-14 at 02:19 AM.
Metacortex is offline  
Old 01-30-14, 01:08 PM
  #4  
Freewheel Medic
 
pastorbobnlnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,885

Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)

Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1453 Post(s)
Liked 2,196 Times in 963 Posts
Gordon, welcome to C&V. We're glad you stopped by. Can you post a picture of your freewheel with its broken tooth?

I can replace the bad cog for you and service the freewheel at the same time. It will then be good for another 33 years. If you go this route you won't have to replace the chain (if it is still good).
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!

Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com





pastorbobnlnh is offline  
Old 01-30-14, 07:26 PM
  #5  
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
 
Jeff Wills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,841
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 806 Post(s)
Liked 710 Times in 379 Posts
Originally Posted by gordonsf
I have a 1981 Japanese 10-spd Schwinn Le Tour with a broken tooth in one of the 5 speed Shimano sprockets. I know I need to replace the whole freewheel and my chain. Does anyone know if I can replace this with any 5 speed freewheel, or are there specific ones that fit the Japanese-made Schwinns?

I saw a French-made Schwinn 5 spd freewheel on ebay, but wasn't sure if it would fit right. I've also seen a lot of Shimano FF assemblies. I'm new to bikes and bike repair, so I don't want to screw it up or order parts that don't fit. Would love to get some advice from knowledgeable folks such as yourselves.

Also, any recs on where to find what I need other than ebay? Thanks!
Please post a picture. Some freewheels had oddly shaped teeth which can appear broken to the untrained eye. If it is indeed broken, you can substitute any 5-speed freewheel- they are essentially generic.

Universal Cycles carries at least one: https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...&category=1665
IRD offers a couple different cog combinations if you're interested in experimenting with gearing: https://www.interlocracing.com/freewheels_steel.html
__________________
Jeff Wills

Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills is offline  
Old 01-30-14, 08:56 PM
  #6  
working on my sandal tan
 
ThermionicScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,629

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3871 Post(s)
Liked 2,568 Times in 1,579 Posts
It's not a broken tooth -- it's a "shift gate."
__________________
Originally Posted by chandltp
There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
Originally Posted by noglider
People in this forum are not typical.
RUSA #7498
ThermionicScott is offline  
Old 01-30-14, 09:00 PM
  #7  
feros ferio
 
John E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Posts: 21,798

Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;

Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1393 Post(s)
Liked 1,326 Times in 837 Posts
This is a great opportunity to upgrade to an ultra-spaced 6-speed freewheel, as I have done with all of my "10-speed" bikes.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
John E is offline  
Old 01-31-14, 12:03 AM
  #8  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Pictures

Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
Please post a picture. Some freewheels had oddly shaped teeth which can appear broken to the untrained eye. If it is indeed broken, you can substitute any 5-speed freewheel- they are essentially generic.

Universal Cycles carries at least one: https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...&category=1665
IRD offers a couple different cog combinations if you're interested in experimenting with gearing: https://www.interlocracing.com/freewheels_steel.html

Thanks everyone for your responses. It's good to know it's easy to replace. Here are some pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/41w2brzyryjjr1v/alMH7uX2Uy

I can see where the shift gate (thanks ThermionicScott) has broken off....and I can feel it skip when riding.

pastorbobnlnh - thanks for the offer, but the bike was really well used when I got it, so I'm planning on just replacing the whole thing.

John E - I thought about upgrading....will I need to replace the derailer and chainring, too?
gordonsf is offline  
Old 01-31-14, 02:38 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
DiegoFrogs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Scranton, PA, USA
Posts: 2,570

Bikes: '77 Centurion "Pro Tour"; '67 Carlton "The Flyer"; 1984 Ross MTB (stored at parents' house)

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 169 Post(s)
Liked 93 Times in 61 Posts
I would probably just go with a basic 5-speed Sunrace freewheel and a 5-8 speed KMC Z-chain. The freewheel will use the same removal tool as the one you removed, and the KMC chain will mesh well with the Sunrace, or other, FW. We can't see your chainrings, but if the chain skips or skates over the teeth on them, I would think then about whether or not you need to replace them.

This stuff can probably be found on places like Niagara for about $25 or so. You've already removed the freewheel, so probably you like doing this sort of stuff.
DiegoFrogs is offline  
Old 01-31-14, 06:36 AM
  #10  
Freewheel Medic
 
pastorbobnlnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,885

Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)

Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1453 Post(s)
Liked 2,196 Times in 963 Posts
Yes, the freewheel or the cog need to be replaced. I agree, just replace the whole thing. The only time I've seen a broken smaller cog is when I've broken them on Suntour New Winners trying to remove them. I can't imagine how this occurred.

In fact, with the extra height on the freewheel body from that rusty chain guard, you might already have the space for a 6 speed freewheel. Measure the inside distance between the rear dropouts (where the rear wheel hub axle fits on the frame). 120mm is the spacing for a 5 speed and 126mm for 6 & 7 speed. Your spacing might be in between, say 123-124mm. If so, you should be able to fit the 6 speed freewheel.

As long as your largest rear cog is no bigger than 28T, you won't have to change the rear derailleur (RD).
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!

Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com





pastorbobnlnh is offline  
Old 02-01-14, 12:39 AM
  #11  
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
 
Jeff Wills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,841
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 806 Post(s)
Liked 710 Times in 379 Posts
Originally Posted by gordonsf
Thanks everyone for your responses. It's good to know it's easy to replace. Here are some pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/41w2brzyryjjr1v/alMH7uX2Uy

I can see where the shift gate (thanks ThermionicScott) has broken off....and I can feel it skip when riding.

pastorbobnlnh - thanks for the offer, but the bike was really well used when I got it, so I'm planning on just replacing the whole thing.

John E - I thought about upgrading....will I need to replace the derailer and chainring, too?
Yes, by golly, that tooth is broken.

__________________
Jeff Wills

Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills is offline  
Old 02-01-14, 12:42 AM
  #12  
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
 
Jeff Wills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,841
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 806 Post(s)
Liked 710 Times in 379 Posts
Originally Posted by gordonsf
John E - I thought about upgrading....will I need to replace the derailer and chainring, too?
As Pastor Bob said, you can probably put a "standard" 6-speed freewheel on there without changing anything else. You might be able to install a 7-speed freewheel without changes, but then again you might have to adjust the spacers and readjust the dish of the wheel.
__________________
Jeff Wills

Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills is offline  
Old 02-02-14, 11:26 PM
  #13  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You all are great! Thanks so much for all your help. I plan on upgrading to a 6 speed freewheel so I can battle the hills of San Francisco a bit better than I currently am with a broken 5 speed. Woo hoo! Can't wait to get my hands dirty putting my bike back together!
gordonsf is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
lostforawhile
Classic & Vintage
21
02-15-17 05:40 PM
zazie
Classic & Vintage
12
05-26-14 06:39 PM
John Montgomery
Bicycle Mechanics
11
08-19-10 07:52 AM
FR4NCH1SE
Bicycle Mechanics
6
03-03-10 01:33 AM
ibo
Bicycle Mechanics
6
02-06-10 11:46 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.