Hellenic frame, modern, affordable?
01-30-14 | 06:13 PM
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Hellenic frame, modern, affordable?
Yet another long term project, I'd like a frameset with hellenic stays, preferably a modern production model with not a massive cost to it.. so anyone know who's making the "good stuff"?
01-30-14 | 06:19 PM
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Newest Hellenic frames I've encountered were non-lugged/TIG welded GT's But not sure how "modern" they really are (when the last ones were made....).
They are now quite popular with the SS/FG crowd....
They are now quite popular with the SS/FG crowd....
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01-30-14 | 06:40 PM
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01-30-14 | 06:55 PM
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Maybe you'll find some ideas here https://velospace.org/viewcluster?c=842
01-30-14 | 08:08 PM
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I bought a complete GT edge (I think) [EDIT: course, not edge] with TIG welded 853 tubing and full 6500 (including flight deck computer) for a friend last year for $500. He's since swapped a bunch of parts around- the most frustrating part was the 1" steerer, but that's not a big thing.
Horrible pic, but you get the idea:
Horrible pic, but you get the idea:
01-30-14 | 08:28 PM
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GTB is the frame to find, out of production since the 90's but worth it. Saw one decked out in black and SS/FG'ed. Must find one myself !
Already have the profile bullhorn bars for it.....
GTB is the frame to find, out of production since the 90's but worth it. Saw one decked out in black and SS/FG'ed. Must find one myself !
Already have the profile bullhorn bars for it.....
01-30-14 | 08:29 PM
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I am not sure if any one other than maybe GT is still making them in steel. I know a few members here, myself included, and watching for the a late '80s Shogun or Nashbar to come our way at a decent price. They are ususally something like Tange Infinity or some other midlevel ChroMoly. I don't either made super highend ones, I believe Shogun may have made a shimano 600 equipped bike but the Nashbars may have topped out at a suntour Alpha 5000 or 105 group.
Are you looking for a custome made frame? I am sure most any builder will work with you on the style of stays but I am sure there will be an upcharge.
Are you looking for a custome made frame? I am sure most any builder will work with you on the style of stays but I am sure there will be an upcharge.
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01-30-14 | 08:30 PM
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I've been on this quest for some time now. Nasbars are the least expensive and most abundant but they are limited to maybe 700x28's or 25's with fenders; unless you do a 650b conversion. Hetchins come up and usually hover around the $900 mark. A forum member had a British frame, 50's vintage that was repaired at some point, needed to clean up the brazing and paint, price was reasonable. Every once in a Blue Moon something odd show up which has kept this search interesting....Good luck!
01-30-14 | 09:17 PM
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Mapleleafs-13 was looking to sell this one a few months back, it has an RD hanger
But in the end, I'd have a new Hetchins Frame built.
But in the end, I'd have a new Hetchins Frame built.
01-31-14 | 05:57 AM
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There's a tiny shop called Britain's Best in Lancaster, PA, that sells British foods such as Oxo, Marmite, and Bovril, tea, tea biscuits, Smarties, Aero bars (not aero bars), and Hetchins and other British frames. Might be worth checking there.
01-31-14 | 07:28 AM
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01-31-14 | 05:58 PM
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Only in my wildest dreams.... This baby belongs to another Forum member. I found the image in the SS/FG Forum. Can't stop looking at it ! I'm on the hunt...
Sad note, my MTB GTs are gone. Some sold, other traded but happy I did ! Got an 88 Tempo frame for it.
Still want a GT framed road bike SS. Let me know what size you need and I will look on this side of the Earth.
Only in my wildest dreams.... This baby belongs to another Forum member. I found the image in the SS/FG Forum. Can't stop looking at it ! I'm on the hunt...
Sad note, my MTB GTs are gone. Some sold, other traded but happy I did ! Got an 88 Tempo frame for it.
Still want a GT framed road bike SS. Let me know what size you need and I will look on this side of the Earth.
01-31-14 | 06:44 PM
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Here is one of my favorites from the historic Hetchins site 1969 Magnum Bonum Hellenic
I wonder if Hetchins could make a Hellenic Mixte with Vibrant stays and.....
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01-31-14 | 08:51 PM
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GT ZR2000, aluminum w/carbon fork. Very nice bike.
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/4265495745.html
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/4265495745.html
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01-31-14 | 10:06 PM
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[QUOTE]It's a Pollard, vintage 50's. Small English builder, not a big following but interesting. I like his treatment of the stays at the top tube. This particular frame has been repaired but not cleaned up. Having a tube replaced kinda kills the value but a nice retro build it would be. Was negotiating with mapleleafs a few months back and all went quiet, I suppose he sold it locally?
Yes....yes they can!
But this is my favorite: a 1/2 Vibrant Hellenic
I wonder if Hetchins could make a Hellenic Mixte with Vibrant stays and.....
But this is my favorite: a 1/2 Vibrant Hellenic
01-31-14 | 10:12 PM
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I am not sure if any one other than maybe GT is still making them in steel. I know a few members here, myself included, and watching for the a late '80s Shogun or Nashbar to come our way at a decent price. They are ususally something like Tange Infinity or some other midlevel ChroMoly. I don't either made super highend ones, I believe Shogun may have made a shimano 600 equipped bike but the Nashbars may have topped out at a suntour Alpha 5000 or 105 group.
Are you looking for a custom made frame? I am sure most any builder will work with you on the style of stays but I am sure there will be an upcharge.
Are you looking for a custom made frame? I am sure most any builder will work with you on the style of stays but I am sure there will be an upcharge.
02-01-14 | 07:02 PM
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That is a beauty and I all but have a pic of it on my night stand.
OK now grab a Guinness and bowl or two of your favorite smake and ponder this.... a Hellenic style Mixte frame
OK now grab a Guinness and bowl or two of your favorite smake and ponder this.... a Hellenic style Mixte frame
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02-01-14 | 10:24 PM
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now grab a Guinness and bowl or two of your favorite smake and ponder this.... a Hellenic style Mixte frame
02-01-14 | 10:27 PM
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Geekhouse makes them, not sure about affordable but they ride like a dream. Rockcity is probably most known one but they offer lots of other styles and geo
https://www.geekhousebikes.com/
https://www.geekhousebikes.com/
02-02-14 | 06:53 AM
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Gt attack in York PA, $350
https://lancaster.craigslist.org/bik/4305678544.html
GT Mtb in York pa also, $420
https://york.craigslist.org/bik/4282923419.html
GT Road Bike
https://reading.craigslist.org/bik/4282968921.html
https://lancaster.craigslist.org/bik/4305678544.html
GT Mtb in York pa also, $420
https://york.craigslist.org/bik/4282923419.html
GT Road Bike
https://reading.craigslist.org/bik/4282968921.html
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