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cant put derallieur back on properly - peugeot touring bicycle

Old 03-24-14, 04:15 PM
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cant put derallieur back on properly - peugeot touring bicycle

Hi guys
I took the rear wheel of to change the tyre on my old Peugeot touring bicycle. Now i cant put it back on properly. the derallieur is the problem. I cant put the simplex on as it is is supposed to be placed. It is made in a strange french way. the wingnut wont go on - it wil touch the deralllieur. so i managed to find a normal nut that fits. But I still cant manage to to place the damn simplex deralliur the right way, before I tighten the nut. Anyone else had that problem, And knows how I should do it?

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Old 03-24-14, 04:20 PM
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You must show photos of your set-up from several different angles in order to get any help.
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Old 03-24-14, 05:55 PM
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this is picture is before all the trouble started!
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Old 03-24-14, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by vintage4ever View Post
this is picture is before all the trouble started!
Oh my! That's before the trouble started?
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Old 03-24-14, 06:20 PM
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Smart to have taken a before pic! I know wing nuts have been used on the RD side, but it never made much sense to me. How about a pic of the condition now?
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Old 03-24-14, 06:24 PM
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Let's see where you are now.
From the basic condition and position of things in your first image, there is any number of things that can be going on some of it at the same time.

Were you able to shift to all of the rear cogs before the flat? From the appearance of things, I doubt it.
And I would get the chain onto the smaller front chainring too. Even when things are all well, that is standard procedure to R&R the rear wheel on a two derailleur equipped bike.
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Old 03-24-14, 06:28 PM
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Never mind that the chain isn't routed along the pulley properly or it's a rusty mess. NTTAWWT.
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Originally Posted by vintage4ever View Post
this is picture is before all the trouble started!

Aha, OK - how you treat your ride is your personal choice :-) Would love to see more pictures of your bike (especially close ups)

For your trouble - I think I had same challenge with Lejeune I had several years back. I believe drive side wingnut should have different proportion vs non-drive side and you should be able to clear the RD.
Are you sure RD is all the way in and are you sure you are using wingnut on the correct side?
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Old 03-24-14, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jiangshi View Post
Never mind that the chain isn't routed along the pulley properly or it's a rusty mess. NTTAWWT.
This picture is like an accident scene - can't look away, I clicked on it at least 5 times in the last minute or two
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You on the big ring?!
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Old 03-25-14, 02:38 AM
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The right side wing nut is often "taller" than the left side wing nut, to clear the rear derailer.
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Originally Posted by dddd View Post
The right side wing nut is often "taller" than the left side wing nut, to clear the rear derailer.
I've never seen that before.
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Old 03-25-14, 03:36 AM
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Well if you got it off then it must go back on.

Make sure the derailleur hanger is right back and then align it with the drop out and tighten it up.
When you insert the rear wheel pull the derailleur back as far as it can go and see if that helps with the wingnut.
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Originally Posted by billnuke1 View Post
You on the big ring?!
I am pretty sure the initial image shown has the chain on the big ring.
There is a chance the chain is too short too, but something else is going on. We will have to wait for more images.
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I have never seen that. I worked in shops when wing nuts were still pretty common, and I don't remember ever coming across that.

Originally Posted by dddd View Post
The right side wing nut is often "taller" than the left side wing nut, to clear the rear derailer.
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Old 03-25-14, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by twinTI View Post
I have never seen that. I worked in shops when wing nuts were still pretty common, and I don't remember ever coming across that.
They existed. Usually only seen on complete bikes, not as a replacement part.
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Try taking the rear wheel off and setting it aside.

Then take the rear der and hanger out of the dropout.
Make sure the chain is not looped around or the derailleur flipped around.
Straighten chain if not right.
Slide der hanger into rear droput slot.
There is bolt and nut that holds the der and hanger in place. This needs to be tightened.
Replace wheel.
Should look like this. Not my pic ( found it on the web)


I'm guessing the der got flipped around.
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Old 03-25-14, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Let's see where you are now.
From the basic condition and position of things in your first image, there is any number of things that can be going on some of it at the same time.

Were you able to shift to all of the rear cogs before the flat? From the appearance of things, I doubt it.
And I would get the chain onto the smaller front chainring too. Even when things are all well, that is standard procedure to R&R the rear wheel on a two derailleur equipped bike.
Thank you for all the response! I was only able to change the rear cogs before tyre change. I have now tried to put the derallieur back on. I have actually been out riding it. I can still change rear cogs now. But I am not sure that the derallieur is on exactly as it should.
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Old 03-25-14, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
They existed. Usually only seen on complete bikes, not as a replacement part.
I can vouch for it on my Peugeot AO8 - when I mixed them up it was pretty clear since I had the same issue as the OP with the wingnut. Set side by side there was a marked difference.
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Old 03-25-14, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vintage4ever View Post
Thank you for all the response! I was only able to change the rear cogs before tyre change. I have now tried to put the derallieur back on. I have actually been out riding it. I can still change rear cogs now. But I am not sure that the derallieur is on exactly as it should.
Can you post another picture of what things look like now? I am sure there are plenty who can help but its hard to picture how you have it set up right now.
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Old 03-26-14, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vintage4ever View Post
this is picture is before all the trouble started!
I beg to disagree. The trouble started when Simplex started making plastic derailleurs & shifters (if not earlier) j/k
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