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sloar 04-10-14 10:53 AM

Why are the forks always bent?
 
Found this complete schwinn new world bike today, even has the key in the fork. Brass headbadge and shifter. Guy wants $50 for it. Just not sure if i want to mess with finding another fork.




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aixaix 04-10-14 11:18 AM

What makes you think the fork is bent?

Seriously, if it isn't kinked it can probably be straightened.

Wildwood 04-10-14 11:24 AM

I'd pass.

Coal Buster 04-10-14 11:40 AM

Offer him $20, settle for $25, put it in the 'possibles' pile, throw out ten years from now.

Reynolds 04-10-14 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by aixaix (Post 16659089)
What makes you think the fork is bent?

Seriously, if it isn't kinked it can probably be straightened.

+1 - if that's a shadow and not a crease...

Lascauxcaveman 04-10-14 12:15 PM

Good candidate for one o' them cheapo Nashbar CF cross forks w/canti mounts.

What?

Chombi 04-10-14 12:42 PM

Nahhh!... must be just the angle the pic was taken!:rolleyes:
Or maybe it's one of those rare old motorpacing bikes...:rolleyes::D
Buying bikes with bent forks will always be a big roll of the dice if you cannot inspect it closely before doing so, as many had discovered after seeing bulges and creases on the TT and DTs only way into the restoration tear down of the bike... I wouldn't touch those unless it's a Singer, Hetchins or a Galmozzi selling for a 100 bucks with a bent fork.....:rolleyes:

rootboy 04-10-14 01:09 PM

Fork's fine. It's those handlebars that are bent.

RB1-luvr 04-10-14 01:19 PM

that would have gone home with me, no hesitation.

FlatTop 04-10-14 01:24 PM

I guess I'd buy it, get a fork from a more common beat-up Schwinn, flip the bars, service the hub and give it a good cleaning. It would make a nice contrast piece to the Raleighs.

rhm 04-10-14 01:30 PM

I have never seen a Schwinn New World that didn't have a bent forkthough I have seen photos of such bikes, presumably photoshopped. They're easy to straighten, though.

That said, I would have bought that bike for the handlebar and shifter. WTF is that shifter, anyway? The handlebar is worth the cost of the bike for sure.

sloar 04-10-14 01:37 PM

from the pics ive seen, i think the shifter goes on the top tube.

rhm 04-10-14 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by sloar (Post 16659548)
from the pics ive seen, i think the shifter goes on the top tube.

Yeah, you're thinking of the Sturmey Archer Quadrant shifter (which is, incidentally, not a cheap item). But this doesn't look like one of those. This is something pretty unusual. The way the shifter is attached, as well as the bizarre pulley wheel on the down tube, all look like home made stuff to me.

OldsCOOL 04-10-14 01:52 PM

Parts bin gems.

Wildwood 04-10-14 01:53 PM

......because it's never 'just the fork' - unless the bend is neglible and never creased in any direction.
As a general rule, inspect gently for any 'minor' ripple(s) on the underside of the TT/DT junctures near the head tube. It's a framebuilder's tools to properly align frames/forks.

aixaix 04-10-14 01:58 PM

Skip-tooth chains are worth a few bucks these days...

sloar 04-10-14 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by aixaix (Post 16659614)
Skip-tooth chains are worth a few bucks these days...

thats kinda what i'm thinking. The brass badge, sweetheart sprocket and chain are worth the $50 on their own.

fietsbob 04-10-14 03:11 PM

Why are the forks always bent?
 
After running into a wall or a car, Sometimes the forks are the strong part and the frame tubes bend instead..

sloar 04-10-14 03:31 PM

Close inspection of the frame, and it looked fine. Seller actually thought the forks were suppose to look like that.

rootboy 04-10-14 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by sloar (Post 16659662)
thats kinda what i'm thinking. The brass badge, sweetheart sprocket and chain are worth the $50 on their own.

Not to mention those cool red pedals. Neat bike. Is it dark blue? Or black?

sailorbenjamin 04-10-14 03:58 PM

That's a New Departure 3 speed. Those are rare and worth a LOT. Get it now. Go to www.thecabe.com and do a quick search. heck with the rest of the bike. The shifter and the hub are worth twice $50 easy.
The forks on New Worlds are always bent cause they were weak. Pretty, but weak.
If it's a skip tooth, it might be a fillet brazed frame. They're nice bikes, even with an EF frame but the FB ones are definitely worth some effort. Yeah, I'd give the guy $50 for it and replace the fork. Where's Sir Mike when you need him?

sloar 04-10-14 04:29 PM

it is a skiptooth with the chain and sweatheart sprocket

Wildwood 04-10-14 04:44 PM

You professional parts guys just kill me.:roflmao2:
Nobody called out that special chaining cover, or that restorable classic saddle.

Michael Angelo 04-10-14 04:46 PM

I would straighten the forks.

sailorbenjamin 04-10-14 05:15 PM

Just noticed the red rubber pedals. This bike gets better every time I look at it.

eja_ bottecchia 04-10-14 05:30 PM

OP, do a Google Images search for Schwinn New World. Then go and buy the bike! Good luck. :thumb:

sailorbenjamin 04-10-14 07:20 PM

This was my New World. Just sold it last fall.
http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-world-me.html

SirMike1983 04-10-14 08:02 PM

New World with some very high end pre-war additions. Sailorben it spot on. Ballooner guys kill for those multi speed ND rigs, same with the red block pedals. Plus you have some other Schwinn items and a skip tooth chain. You can make a nice chunk if you part it. They also make great riders. I have a matching pair of them. Great bikes. This bike is quite valuable with that set up.

The forks on these are pretty fragile. They're pretty lightly built. I got lucky with mine, but there are plenty of bent ones around.

thinktubes 04-10-14 08:38 PM

Worth $50 - no brainer.

schwinns are made of tough stuff, bet the frame is straight.

The Golden Boy 04-11-14 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin (Post 16660489)
This was my New World. Just sold it last fall.
http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-world-me.html

I'm not "into" those older bikes, for the most part- but those decals are the cat's pyjamas.


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