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rbaisa 04-24-14 05:40 PM

Score Gios Torino!
 
I picked this up from a friend of a friend for $200. I spent the weekend degreasing and derusting it with wd-40 and a brass brush on a Dremel tool. I have some before pictures here at work and will post my progress when I get home. I'm pretty happy with how it is cleaning up.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps479b7eea.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps02b84195.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps6eeafbdf.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps8821d1ef.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...psa344f03e.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...psa933fa5b.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...psce500927.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...psd21a4e8c.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps61f668fd.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps1cff6fe1.jpg

rbaisa 04-24-14 05:40 PM

Can never have enough pics

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...psf9d15b6f.jpg


http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...pscf995330.jpg

bikemig 04-24-14 05:45 PM

That's quite the score for $200. Beautiful bike and a heck of a deal.

rjhammett 04-24-14 05:47 PM

Very nice!
I have a deal for you: I send you $200, you send me bike

Chombi 04-24-14 06:12 PM

Looks like it will clean up very well, mostly dirt on grease I see in the pics...

repechage 04-24-14 06:19 PM

Looks like lots of MDF router dust to me. A terrific deal.
Interesting the cable stops mounted on the shifter bosses, that bike was reworked a bit later for the bar end controls. Those did not exist at the time the frame was made.
Came later in the B'rifter era.

Your big percentage of the bike's price spend will be new brake hoods.

due ruote 04-24-14 06:32 PM

Score indeed; congrats. I always liked that Gios blue and the graphics.

I'm generally a fan of bar ends but on that bike I'd be very tempted to go back to dt shifters. Just seems right on such a classic.

rbaisa 04-24-14 06:37 PM

I hate brifters those are gonna go. Yeah I was looking at brake hoods $50 or so on ebay. I have some other levers at home with hoods, but they are not in as nice condition as these and if I try to remove them they will rip. I completely disassembled the entire bike and rebuilt everything. Every bolt, spring, and screw came apart and was refinished the best I could. There was some rust here and there that came off with light steel wool and the brass Dremel. I really like rebuilding these derailleurs they are my favorite. I polished the frame and fork and reglued the decals where needed. I am headed out and will be home in an hour or so. I can post some more current pics when I get home. Thanks for all the kind words.

Pars 04-24-14 06:47 PM

Nice score! Some downtube simplex retrofriction shifters would look right at home there. And agreed on rebuilding Campy derailleurs, it is fun :)

Chombi 04-24-14 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by rbaisa (Post 16699839)
I hate brifters those are gonna go. Yeah I was looking at brake hoods $50 or so on ebay. I have some other levers at home with hoods, but they are not in as nice condition as these and if I try to remove them they will rip. I completely disassembled the entire bike and rebuilt everything. Every bolt, spring, and screw came apart and was refinished the best I could. There was some rust here and there that came off with light steel wool and the brass Dremel. I really like rebuilding these derailleurs they are my favorite. I polished the frame and fork and reglued the decals where needed. I am headed out and will be home in an hour or so. I can post some more current pics when I get home. Thanks for all the kind words.

Uhhmm...I see bar end shifters.....not brifters .......
Contrary to what most believe, there were enough racers that used bar end shifters in the 70's and early 80's that installing them on a n 80's race bike is not really "blasphemy".......

rbaisa 04-24-14 08:16 PM

I have never even heard of brifter,s I assumed it was some fancy name used for bar end shifters. I used them in the 80's, but on cross and time trial bikes. I never liked them on road bikes, but my dad did.

due ruote 04-24-14 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 16699945)
Uhhmm...I see bar end shifters.....not brifters .......
Contrary to what most believe, there were enough racers that used bar end shifters in the 70's and early 80's that installing them on a n 80's race bike is not really "blasphemy".......

I wasn't trying to imply it was blasphemous, but in spite of being period-correct, I prefer the cleaner lines of dt shifters on an Italian classic. At any rate it's not my bike, and there are lots of worse things one could do.

rbaisa 04-24-14 08:17 PM

Here are some pics of the frame and main components cleaned up.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps3abd28e6.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps1df6d68c.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps6f77f860.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps340e53f8.jpg

due ruote 04-24-14 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by rbaisa (Post 16700057)
I have never even heard of brifter,s I assumed it was some fancy name used for bar end shifters. I used them in the 80's, but on cross and time trial bikes. I never liked them on road bikes, but my dad did.

That would be a mashup of brake and shifter - integrated shifters, in other words. I think you should get a gold C&V star for not having heard the term.

Chombi 04-24-14 08:26 PM

I knew it would come out really nice after a cleaning! Congratulations!, you have a really nice Italian classic, that's in really really great condition!!
Better not show it to the previous owner now, or he/she might cry his eyes out in front of you, regretting selling that beauty!
200 bucks??! Dang! We all hate you now!

rbaisa 04-24-14 08:29 PM

Hahaha that's funny, I will take any star I can get. Apparently I have several pairs of brifters and didn't even know what they were called, because I have sram red on my indy fab and Felt and Rival on my Fisher Presidio. I did have a 15 year gap in my life where I never touched a bike so I missed the whole shifter transition in the late 90's. I went from Shimano Dura-ace SIS downtube shifters to Sram "Brifters".


Originally Posted by due ruote (Post 16700065)
That would be a mashup of brake and shifter - integrated shifters, in other words. I think you should get a gold C&V star for not having heard the term.


repechage 04-24-14 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 16699945)
Uhhmm...I see bar end shifters.....not brifters .......
Contrary to what most believe, there were enough racers that used bar end shifters in the 70's and early 80's that installing them on a n 80's race bike is not really "blasphemy".......

Yes, gold star for not knowing about "brifters". Integrated shift and brake levers came a bit later with the second generation of pro level index shifting, in many cases they used at the cable stops that mounted to the downtube shift bosses, as you have on your Gios with bar end controls, sometimes called "bar cons".

My notice was that the bar end controls were of a time when the cable stops that fit on the shift bosses were not yet. When bar cons were popular so were clamp on shifter assemblies and a clamp on cable stop.

My first road bike had Campagnolo bar end controls, I adapted to them but they were vague to shift. I would hit my knee on them occasionally. It was either trim some from the end of the bar or buy downtube controls, which was what I did. Never looked back.

Only have brifters on my one Campagnolo Ergo 8 equipped bike. All else downtube controls. When I ride with the modern guys they just can't imagine having to reach down to shift. Slackers, perhaps? If I was racing again I would have them, but I am not. I won't race masters until they bring drug testing to the local races, its different out here in SoCal.

rbaisa 04-24-14 08:56 PM

Really? This just makes me sad.


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 16700112)
I won't race masters until they bring drug testing to the local races, its different out here in SoCal.


rbaisa 04-24-14 08:59 PM

I don't think I am going to put the original wheels back on this bike though. I plan on using it for the ocasional weekend group ride and I think I am going to use something more like GP4's. I have several other bikes that I can use GP4's with and don't want too many sets of tubular wheels to maintain.

rbaisa 04-24-14 09:04 PM

The paint was really dull even after cleaning, but responded well to 3 grades of car polish. It really shined up nice.


Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 16700086)
I knew it would come out really nice after a cleaning! Congratulations!, you have a really nice Italian classic, that's in really really great condition!!
Better not show it to the previous owner now, or he/she might cry his eyes out in front of you, regretting selling that beauty!
200 bucks??! Dang! We all hate you now!


repechage 04-24-14 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by rbaisa (Post 16700151)
Really? This just makes me sad.

Reference Richard Meeker suspension. If he had not raced at the Nationals he would not have been caught. Reference the average speed of SoCal masters races compared to other classes before his suspension, enlightening.

repechage 04-24-14 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by rbaisa (Post 16700166)
The paint was really dull even after cleaning, but responded well to 3 grades of car polish. It really shined up nice.

As Gios Blue is not a metallic it does respond well to polishing compound and polish without worry of cutting through the clearcoat.

What did you use to retack the graphics? Not the easiest task to do.

EBH 04-24-14 10:59 PM

Turning out to a lovley bike that one. :thumb:

Big Block 04-25-14 02:50 AM

excellent purchase price
be sure to register it

rbaisa 04-25-14 08:04 AM

I used Testors liquid cement with the needle applicator. There are 2 layers to the decals, the color layer which is on top and the clear layer that sticks to the frame. This means you have 2 surfaces to glue. I cleaned off the dirt and old adhesive with alcohol and let it dry. Then I applied the liquid cement to the color layer to get it to stick to the clear layer and used scotch tape to hold them in place until the layers dried. I removed the scotch tape and glued it to the bike using scotch tape to hold it in place again. I did it in 2 steps, because I wasn’t sure if it would work at all and wanted the option of trying another adhesive if necessary. I researched the forum and different people said different things so I used what I had. I think there is a little more room for error when using liquid cement, because you can wipe excess off. I was thinking super glue would not be so easy to clean up if you can at all. Also the needle applicator really gave me a lot of control in terms of where the glue was going and how much. It is sticking, but I don’t know how long it will last. I will take some pics this weekend and post them.


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 16700321)
What did you use to retack the graphics? Not the easiest task to do.



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