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Ride-Fly 05-11-14 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by 8speed (Post 16747624)
Ride-fly, here's your proof of no 3 Primato. :) This one needs a lot of work and I don't really like showing it yet. I bought it to save it from being converted to a fixie, but it will take a while for me to find the funds to restore properly.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379612. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379610http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379611http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379613

As for your choice, I and partial to the look of the diamante stays, so that would exclude the Professional for me. I like the sharper look of Genius chain stays but prefer the more understated presentation of the original Primato. I'd go the Primato, all other things being equal.

I'm unworthy!! 4 steel De Rosas?!?!? They all look awesome! Are there noticeable differences in the ride?

KonAaron Snake 05-11-14 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ride-Fly (Post 16745644)

stale thread? It's only 6 days since the last post. LOL.

I only see two Primatos in your pics. Pics of the third or it didn't happen. ;)

Seriously though, you are one lucky dude to have so many Primatos.

It's funny but an older Neo Primato popped up. It has Genius tubing, webbed BB, and the diamanté CS like you've described. F/F for $1270. Looks practically new. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379423http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379424http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379425http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379426

Then a Professional with EL OS tubing. Has a webbed BB but no diamanté CS. Also in immaculate condition. I can get the F/F/HS for $1000. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379429http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379430http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379431http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=379432

The other I'm considering is a white mica Primato F/F/HS owned by a well known poster and De Rosa fanatic on the other forums.

Between the 3, which should I choose? I'm leaning toward the Neo Primato Genius tubing.

Assuming that they're all the same size, the white Primato. He's a great seller, it has all of the stuff you want it to have and there's just something about a white De Rosa. I'd pick the el OS professional second.

I'd wager few of us could tell the difference riding them, but EL OS has more snob appeal and was a little higher on the food chain.

I wish De Rosa made a MAX model.

8speed 05-11-14 05:30 AM

Honestly I don't think I could pick a difference between EL/OS and Genius ride. If there is I think it would be swamped by the different set up in my bikes - tubular vs clincher, deep section vs shallow section rims, etc.

The ride on all of them (including the Nuovo Classico, which uses SLX new (aka TSX)) is sublime. And the geometry just seems to be perfect for confident descending. I do most of my fast riding on a Cannondale Six13 but on a winding descent I can push much harder on the De Rosas. I have never ridden any other italian bikes so maybe they're nothing special amongst the exotics, but my first ride on one blew me away and I've pretty much been a one brand guy ever since. For someone like me, a bright red and chrome Primato with Record 9 speed is like the 250 GTO of bikes.

KonAaron Snake 05-11-14 05:45 AM

I think there's a reason De Rosas are so well regarded among the Italians. Some of this is preference, and I'm a proponent of n+1 experimentation. Part of it is that De Rosa makes forks to each bike/size...I think that makes a noticeable difference.

I'm not sure what De Rosa did - but I wouldn't call a genius uni-crown De Rosa a Primato.

jet sanchEz 05-11-14 08:05 AM

My Professional rides differently than my Nuovo Classico, the TSX tubes of the Classico feel a bit stiffer. But that might just be in my mind as they are each set up quite differently. Regardless, I love both bikes but I seem to ride the Professional more often.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...chEz/money.jpg

Ride-Fly 05-11-14 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 16747732)
Assuming that they're all the same size, the white Primato. He's a great seller, it has all of the stuff you want it to have and there's just something about a white De Rosa. I'd pick the el OS professional second.

I'd wager few of us could tell the difference riding them, but EL OS has more snob appeal and was a little higher on the food chain.

I wish De Rosa made a MAX model.

aaron, it's a tough call as each has one thing that elevates it from the rest. The white mica is indeed a sweet bike. The owner is good people for sure. I LOVE white frames, but for a De Rosa, Faema has always made me lust. Ferrari red IMHO, is the next classic color. Z's Primato has everything but Faema colors. It's in great condition, but not as in pristine a condition that the other two are in. These two are in almost NOS condition. The Genius NP is missing EL OS but has Faema and the unique, sharper diamanté CS. The Ferrari red Professional is missing both Faema and diamanté CS, but is EL OS.

your two De Rosas are absolutely perfect. I couldn't choose between the two, if i could only save one in a fire. What about you? Which would you save from a fire if you could only save one??? :D

what about MAX do you like? Isn't it for bigger heavier riders that makes for a harsher ride?

KonAaron Snake 05-11-14 10:46 AM

I'm a heavier rider - I love it. Or, more exactly, I like how my MAX frame was made.

Of my three De Rosas, I'd save the Primato...not even a question.

Ride-Fly 05-11-14 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz (Post 16747965)
My Professional rides differently than my Nuovo Classico, the TSX tubes of the Classico feel a bit stiffer. But that might just be in my mind as they are each set up quite differently. Regardless, I love both bikes but I seem to ride the Professional more often.

nice set of Rosas! I can't believe how many of you have multiple De Rosas- often of the same models (Jet- I know yours aren't the same models). I have 4 Colnagos but not two of the same models. Although I would get more than one C40! :)

is your Pro made of SLX?


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