upgrade an old Pinarello?
 

I don't mind the friction shifting but I've been considering something a little more modern possibly a 9-10 spd groupo and setting the older campy group to the side since it's in relatively good condition.

I'm not too sure what crank set I have as it does look more modern than the rest...but I believe it will work with a 9-10 spd group (correct me if I'm wrong). I ride around 150-200 miles weekly. I'm not a racer so I don't need carbon components. If anyone has some suggestions I'd appreciate. Right now I'm leaning towards a 9spd chorus set up...thoughts? My buddy said the parts are obsolete for 8-9spds..and suggested shimano..which I don't entirely object to..I would just prefer italian parts for the italian frame..coming from a auto background, that's my mentality.

In terms of wheelset...I haven't even thought of it..really like the MA-40s..but they wont work. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

Thanks:thumb:


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Chorus could work very nicely. Campagnolo consistently puts out silver-toned groups, so that would fit your bike well. Something to consider might be your rear dropout spacing. 126mm to 130mm is fine, 120mm to 130mm might require a bit more doing. The nice thing about Campy groups however is that they're pretty maintaineable. So even if 8 or 9 speed is technically obsolete, it's not hard to get the parts to last so long that it doesn't even matter. When you're done, please post pictures in the C&V with STI or Ergos thread! :)

Modern cranks are engineered to work better with indexed shifting so yeah you might as well get a complete kit for your bike if you are going that route. If you're going new, you might as well go with current gear and buy a complete kit like this athena kit (just as an example):

Campagnolo Athena Alloy Compact Kit-In-A-Box in Tree Fort Bikes Build Kits (cat220)

You'll still need wheels. MA 40s aren't exactly available anymore. If you want something old school and strong, I'd go with something like the H Plus Son TB 14 and have someone build you a pair of wheels; these are strong rims and and they're a little wider than most road rims which will give you a better tire profile.

You can probably get away with the current crank.
I recommend going with modern 10 speed, possibly Veloce. Prices are reasonable, performance on par with higher groups, less compatibility issues than sourcing 8-9 speed Campagnolo. Campagnolo-spec 10 speed wheels are now plentiful too.

BTW, beautiful Pinarello!

+1. Don't mess with it, just ride it.

Wow that thing is gorgeous, I'm pretty jealous. I'd put 10s Campy on that baby :)

Keep in mind that if you are going to order a complete group, Campagnolo stuff is way cheaper if you buy it from the UK--I use Ribble. I got a Veloce group, plus campy wheels and a Regal saddle for less than I would have paid for just the group here. Free shipping, too.

I will say that I didn't like the front shifting on the Veloce ergo shifters. This was a couple years ago, so maybe they're better now, but it only had 2 clicks--one for the big ring and one for the small. No trim capabilities at all. I eventually changed them for bar ends.

thanks for the kind words, She rides as good as she looks!

I've looked into veloce but am worried about all the plastic bits...any plastics in the 9spd chorus group? got my eye on an ebay auction..

haha i was waiting for someone to say that...i should but efficient shifting just sounds real convenient!

i have a 2013 Veloce group on a bike and it works great. the only plastic bit i see is the shift lever behind the brake lever, and that seems to be the same plastic bit as on a 2013 Record group i have on another bike. you can grab a complete group with cables for $650 at velomine.

and that is a nice looking bike.

Thanks for the info! I'm pretty sure i'm going with the veloce group. What wheel set are you running on your bike if you don't mind me askin?

i have the Veloce on my DeRosa. Wheels are Mavic OP rims with Record hubs. 9 speed rear hub fits 10 speed cassette. there are a few Campy 9 speed hubs on ebay. i'd keep the rims you have and just change the hub on the rear wheel. i haven't cold set the frame yet. the 130 fits in with not much effort. H+Sons TB14 are also very nice rims if you're getting new ones.

Feels like sacrilege to me! But...it is your beautiful Pinarello...so do as pleases you! :-)

Very nice bike as is though the parts are not in a single period. The RD, FD and Shifters are older than the crank and calipers.

I think it is a great looking bike as it sits and putting a black modern group on it would make it ugly.

If you really want index shifting I would find a Sachs, Sunrace or shimano 7 spd FW and 600 7 spd DT shiftets and RD. You'll get index convience and keep your classic looks.

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the record RD moves with relatively little cable pull compared with the newer Slant pantograph RD, so if you change the RD
you will likely need a larger cable pull shift lever... (though a J-Tech cable pull ratio multiplying pulley may make it work)

after some contemplation, I don't know if I have the heart to cold set the rear end...will it devalue the frame?

Cheers for all the input! :thumb:

Purdy bike. I recently built up an '83 Pinarello Record frameset. I too was trying to decide whether to go a little more modern or try to stay true to the age of the frame. I have a a few 8/9 speed group sets ready to go. I went with Nuovo Record and am happy with the result.

Modern groups aren't all black.

Saweeet teal Pinarello

I'm just jealous.