I purchased it, dear reader
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I purchased it, dear reader
I told myself I wanted a project. We'll see. I think there's not an original component on it. Maybe the headset or BB? Might have let my enthusiasm get the better of me.




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...and what a cool project to take on!
May we see the entire "Project Paramount?"
Looks as if you have the opportunity to easily upgrade to a triple crankset.
May we see the entire "Project Paramount?"
Looks as if you have the opportunity to easily upgrade to a triple crankset.
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I *think* the PDG "series" bikes were all the same frame, that the difference was in the component groups and paint color.
So getting a PDG 3 and building it with the cat's pyjamas of components will get you the equivalent of a Series 5 or better.
You may find a Panasonic PDG surprise waiting for you.
Congratulations!
So getting a PDG 3 and building it with the cat's pyjamas of components will get you the equivalent of a Series 5 or better.
You may find a Panasonic PDG surprise waiting for you.
Congratulations!
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
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But man, is it rough. Lots of chips. There are hundreds of chips. Surface rust. And the components look like they came out of the co-op bin after a prior owner stripped it. Might be the only high end road bike I've ever seen with an Acera derailleur.
It's still a nice frame with the star bottle bosses and the chain hanger etc.
I've discovered it's too big and will likely put it in the frame-doesn't-fit thread when I've got it stripped of parts and inspected. Measure twice buy once :-/ Not one single part may remain by the time I'm done, but it's a foot into the door of a nice frame. The notional goal at the moment is a frame like this with SRAM Apex WiFli
It's still a nice frame with the star bottle bosses and the chain hanger etc.
I've discovered it's too big and will likely put it in the frame-doesn't-fit thread when I've got it stripped of parts and inspected. Measure twice buy once :-/ Not one single part may remain by the time I'm done, but it's a foot into the door of a nice frame. The notional goal at the moment is a frame like this with SRAM Apex WiFli
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Here it is in the cruel clear light of morning.
Crank: Sekae SX
FD: Suntour AR
RD: Shimano Acera
Shifters: Shimano stem
Brakes: mismatched. Front is unmarked but is double-pivot at least. Rear is Dia-Compe
Stem and handlebar: no name, appear to be steel. Stem is an inch above min insertion
Brake levers: Leechi?
Pedals: Shimano PD-M505, ok
Wheels: I don't even want to talk about it.
But the guy had it trimmed and was riding it.

Crank: Sekae SX
FD: Suntour AR
RD: Shimano Acera
Shifters: Shimano stem
Brakes: mismatched. Front is unmarked but is double-pivot at least. Rear is Dia-Compe
Stem and handlebar: no name, appear to be steel. Stem is an inch above min insertion
Brake levers: Leechi?
Pedals: Shimano PD-M505, ok
Wheels: I don't even want to talk about it.
But the guy had it trimmed and was riding it.

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That really is an odd collection nuts and bolts, isn't it? Still, nice frame.
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What's with those handlebars? Super long extension! How does one reach the drops?
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By the look of them they should be rotated down a good 15-20 degrees, until the drops are nearly level, which would bring them a ways aft. I don't know the model, there's no mark evident in the middle between the tape where it would usually be. Maybe they came from a cheap fixie. The original came with an anatomic bar.
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nowadays only buy based on how the frame condition and fit- maybe the wheelset. 90%+ always needs to be rebuild or replaced anyways.
Do you really expect to have a great, safe experience dry BB & hubs and 30 yr old brakes cables?
Things I needed to replace immediately on every bike I have bought:
chain, brakepads, seat, pedals, BB spindle(sometimes) & lube, wheel hubs bearings & lube, headset, cassette, chainrings (sometimes), tires (always), tubes (always), cables, housings, hoods, tape.
Do you really expect to have a great, safe experience dry BB & hubs and 30 yr old brakes cables?
Things I needed to replace immediately on every bike I have bought:
chain, brakepads, seat, pedals, BB spindle(sometimes) & lube, wheel hubs bearings & lube, headset, cassette, chainrings (sometimes), tires (always), tubes (always), cables, housings, hoods, tape.
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I took it apart tonight. Wasn't expecting much.
I got a good crankset and FD. The rings are 50-44 (seems random) on 110BCD and there are holes for a 74BCD triple ring. Rear brake good. Seat post serviceable but unmarked. Chrome handlebar, unmarked. The stem is chrome, there's a logo on the stem, can't tell what it is - sort of a circle with a rounded A. Brake levers and shifters in good shape. None of it is special but they are serviceable.
Didn't look really close at the RD. Front brake has a bent cable arm - how does that happen? Seat is junk.
I left the headset in because I couldn't find both my crescent wrenches and left the BB in because I need to borrow the socket.
I got a good crankset and FD. The rings are 50-44 (seems random) on 110BCD and there are holes for a 74BCD triple ring. Rear brake good. Seat post serviceable but unmarked. Chrome handlebar, unmarked. The stem is chrome, there's a logo on the stem, can't tell what it is - sort of a circle with a rounded A. Brake levers and shifters in good shape. None of it is special but they are serviceable.
Didn't look really close at the RD. Front brake has a bent cable arm - how does that happen? Seat is junk.
I left the headset in because I couldn't find both my crescent wrenches and left the BB in because I need to borrow the socket.
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A lot of work/money for a frame that doesn't fit:
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
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I have three frames that suckered me into repainting! None are done! Maybe a smart move.





