Need help knowing more about Motobecane Super Tour, 1020 frame
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Need help knowing more about Motobecane Super Tour, 1020 frame
Changed a brokedown low-end 70s Peugeot with bent a frame for a Motobecane Super Tour.
Can't find any good information about such model on the internet. Does anyone know anything about it?
Would guess it's something from the early 80s? End of 70s?
1020 steel tube frame, Weinmann brakes and levers, Schimano positron shifter system.
Low-end? Middle? Worth investing in or only good for a commuter-beater.
Can't find any good information about such model on the internet. Does anyone know anything about it?
Would guess it's something from the early 80s? End of 70s?
1020 steel tube frame, Weinmann brakes and levers, Schimano positron shifter system.
Low-end? Middle? Worth investing in or only good for a commuter-beater.
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The font style on the printing makes me think '80's. Shimano introduced Positron in 1975, accd to velobase website. I do not see Super Touring in my 1974-75 Motobecane catalogs, so your presumption of later '70's- early '80's is probably in the ball park. You can search some threads on this site for more info. too.
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the '80 super touring looks like a much better bike, with vitus 172 frame and better components.

more catalogs here: bulgier.net - /pics/bike/Catalogs/Motobecane/
the hierarchy for many years went ...
- nomade
- mirage
- super mirage
- grand touring
- grand jubilé
- grand record
- le champion
- team champion
yours is not a mid-level bike, but it is certainly worth an overhaul and rebuild, especially if it fits.
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1020 frame tubing = low end. Just manage the spending and you should do OK. Not something super special. Depending on the year, Motobecane was in love with Swiss bottom brackets. I have seen them across four different year Motobecanes. Swiss BB can be a significant PITA/$$ to replace if necessary.
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Euro spec bike? Looks like it from the lock or whatever by the rear brake caliper.
Chrome rims + suicide shifters + turkey wing levers + claw RD bracket + 1020 Hi-Tensile frame = beater
I think mid 1980's. The tri-blue chevrons seem to be mimic the Peugeot rainbow of 1984-1985.
Chrome rims + suicide shifters + turkey wing levers + claw RD bracket + 1020 Hi-Tensile frame = beater
I think mid 1980's. The tri-blue chevrons seem to be mimic the Peugeot rainbow of 1984-1985.
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Found my sticker combination in some 1985 catalog. And that 1980 catalog was the only one where I found a reference to that specific model name.
Interesting to see a 1020 frame sticker on that late of a bike. Plus didn't really see so full set of Schimano compenents on a Motobecane in any catalogue.
By looks the frame seems to my eyes almost the same as a grand touring. Just a minor difference in parts. Or am I wrong?
But yeah, right now I am quite happy with it. Will probably clean it first and take of all the whistles to make it more minimal. Then later we'll see about recouluring, shifter replacement etc.
Interesting to see a 1020 frame sticker on that late of a bike. Plus didn't really see so full set of Schimano compenents on a Motobecane in any catalogue.
By looks the frame seems to my eyes almost the same as a grand touring. Just a minor difference in parts. Or am I wrong?
But yeah, right now I am quite happy with it. Will probably clean it first and take of all the whistles to make it more minimal. Then later we'll see about recouluring, shifter replacement etc.
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Components may not be original. Bike is around 30 years old. Prior owners have had a long time to make changes. Almost all of my bikes of that age do not have original drivetrain.
Steel seat post, steel bars, steel rims, turkey levers, stem shifters,, high ten steel frame = entry level by the mid 1980s.
Many brands painted a lot of models in the same colors and graphics. So a Schwinn Super Sport "looked"' identical to a Schwinn Varsity. Didn't make them comparable.
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I just sold my late-70s 1020 tubed Ross Super Gran Tour Professional. Heaviest (and stiffest) frame I've ever ridden. Kind of a punishing ride.
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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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A Moto frame of hi-tensile 1020 or 2040 steel is a fairly low grade steel, so the frames are heavier. The bikes ride fine and plush, but are not well suited for hilly touring. Young people love the vintage look of the Super Mirage, Mirage, and Nomade models. I define young people as being born after the bike was first built or sold!
A Moto Grand Touring is a Vitus tubing frame and rides very comfortably for hours. Below is my recently refurbished GT. Below the GT is a recently refurbished Nomade I sold. Only $40 difference in initial acquisition costs between the two bikes.


Obviously, the GT has a more expensive saddle, tires, and bar tape, but other than these parts, the only other expense was replacing the wheel set as the rear rim had an undetected crack. However the donor bike's frame set is worth more than what I paid for the entire donor bike, as it is a Reynolds 531 frame.
A Moto Grand Touring is a Vitus tubing frame and rides very comfortably for hours. Below is my recently refurbished GT. Below the GT is a recently refurbished Nomade I sold. Only $40 difference in initial acquisition costs between the two bikes.


Obviously, the GT has a more expensive saddle, tires, and bar tape, but other than these parts, the only other expense was replacing the wheel set as the rear rim had an undetected crack. However the donor bike's frame set is worth more than what I paid for the entire donor bike, as it is a Reynolds 531 frame.
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some of the grand touring motos were really nice bikes with vitus fames, very similar to the grand jubilé. some other years, they were more like the mirage, with low-end components and heavier straight-gauge frames.
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Lots of great information. Thanks.
Yes, the bike is older than me. And no plans on counquering many steep hills, as there aren't many here. Hopefully a good enough selection to start my vintage bike collection with.
Yes, the bike is older than me. And no plans on counquering many steep hills, as there aren't many here. Hopefully a good enough selection to start my vintage bike collection with.
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