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Old 07-02-14, 05:09 PM
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Bianchi? Does anyone know anything about them?

Looking for a while and can not find any information about this bike. I just know that frame is columbus zeta. Who knows to tell me exactly what model is this:

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Old 07-02-14, 05:15 PM
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Someone else will have to explain the "S" pantographs, because I have seen only either "B" or "Bianchi."
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Old 07-02-14, 05:26 PM
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thanks @john. Who knows maybe sleeping at this time
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Old 07-02-14, 05:30 PM
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it be true:" Demnach ist der Rahmen bei Altinger gefertigt " ??
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Old 07-02-14, 05:48 PM
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Old 07-02-14, 05:51 PM
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I would bet next weeks pay check that is not a Bianchi. I never saw in person nor pics of Bianchi with a S on the stay caps and forks.

It has a Zeta decal "on" it and that is all you know. If they put fake brand decals they can use fake tubing decals.

Any stampings on the dropouts or fork ends?



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Old 07-02-14, 05:52 PM
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'Never heard of them ... How's that bike ride? Condition looks nice.
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Old 07-02-14, 06:16 PM
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is the same model but does not write Bianchi but Altinger



Does anyone know what Altinger? Who is Sigi Renz?
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Old 07-02-14, 06:23 PM
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Just google it

Wilhelm Altinger - Racing Cycling Frames - Rennrahmenbau - Altinger Munich - Altinger München
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Old 07-02-14, 06:28 PM
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and what model? Just google it? )
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Old 07-02-14, 06:31 PM
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Only you can help me @Bianchigirll
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I will also bet a large sum that is not a Bianchi. Frame details are pretty much all wrong. The Bianchi decal on the down tube is peeling. Bianchis in the era that matches those decals had the decals clearcoated so you would not see them peeling like this.
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Old 07-02-14, 06:44 PM
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@BlueDevil63,
ok, is not a Bianchi. It is a frame built WILHELM ALTINGER?
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I think you may want to do some research yourself, or at least provide much better photographs. It may help to be able to read German, to unravel this mystery.

Altinger seems to be a custom maker of racing bikes from the 80s and 90s and maybe earlier. I looked at a few of the bikes on that website, they don't look like the two bikes you are showing.

Sigi Renz was a bike racer in the 60s and 70s and it seems he sold and perhaps made some bikes too. You can google up images of those and compare.

I can't read much about these two people since the sources are in German.

As for your bikes, they look like production bikes, not custom, and I imagine someone familiar with smaller European brands could easily identify them from the "S" marks on seatstay and fork crown.
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See post #6 I do agree they look like nice machines how do they ride?
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Old 07-02-14, 06:54 PM
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@Bianchigirll is very easy, easier than a classic Moser ) weight <8,900 g complete bike
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At 8,900 grams for the complete bike, I seriously doubt it's Columbus Zeta. The Zeta tubeset is straight gauge with 0.9mm wall thickness and is intended for cyclo-tourism. The uncut tubeset weighs 2,440 grams for the "A" length (short) tubes.
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