Favorite group?
07-13-14 | 07:17 PM
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Favorite group?
What is your favorite looking group and what group is the best functioning group?
for me it's:
Looks: Campy Ergo 8 speed with Delta's / C-record group with deltas
Functionality: Shimano 8 Speed DA, nothing is crisper for the older stuff.
for me it's:
Looks: Campy Ergo 8 speed with Delta's / C-record group with deltas
Functionality: Shimano 8 Speed DA, nothing is crisper for the older stuff.
07-13-14 | 07:25 PM
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The original Chorus group especially with the Sapphire Chorus brakes
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07-13-14 | 07:33 PM
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Not sure. Definitely not the Grateful Dead though, I can tell you that. Maybe Spinal Tap?
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07-13-14 | 07:38 PM
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For looks, definitely Campagnolo Super Record, vintage 1983. It just never gets tiring. It's also an amazing group for durability. It's some of the most crashworthy stuff. These days, bike racers are expected to plunk down piles of cash for new stuff every two or three years. In the 80's you would buy a bike, crash it, fix it, and repeat many times. If that is your mode of operation, nothing beats Campagnolo.
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07-13-14 | 07:43 PM
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For function and looks Suntour Superbe Pro in friction. I do not have much experience with indexed shifting other than 105's.
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07-13-14 | 08:10 PM
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Toss in some Modolo brakes, and I like this for looks.
For function, it's hard not to go modern. Campy Chorus is about as functional as it gets (double dump is awesome when you hit the base of a hill).
For function, it's hard not to go modern. Campy Chorus is about as functional as it gets (double dump is awesome when you hit the base of a hill).
07-13-14 | 08:47 PM
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This:
Mavic SSC, 80's French "Avant Garde" group....
Best functioning group I ever had was the Suntour Cyclone MkII.......followed closely byt the Superbe Pro.
Mavic SSC, 80's French "Avant Garde" group....
Best functioning group I ever had was the Suntour Cyclone MkII.......followed closely byt the Superbe Pro.
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07-13-14 | 09:31 PM
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there's little more beautiful in the bicycle world than seeing the brilliant shine coming off a campagnolo nuovo record seatpost, crankset, and rear derailleur.
if setup properly, it performs just as well.
if setup properly, it performs just as well.
07-13-14 | 10:09 PM
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For looks, it has to be c-record. It's elegant, different and prioritizes polish and panache.
For function...campy ergos - any gen.
For function...campy ergos - any gen.
07-13-14 | 10:25 PM
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07-13-14 | 10:58 PM
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I have a couple of requirements for favorite group. First, it has to be "relatively" affordable. Secondly for STI, it needs to be repairable (not just the temporary WD40 flush and pray).For STI, I prefer either 8 speed DA or 8 speed 600 (tricolor). Both can be had with dual pivot brakes, both are aesthetically pleasing, both are repairable (nine speed and higher are not), consumables (other than lever hoods, don't get me going on those!!!) are affordable as well. On my keeper STI road bikes, all have one of these two groups.On MTBs, the late 1980s Deore XT, like on my Cimarron, are great. Also great are the early 1990s Deore LX and XT. All are durable, function well, and are still affordable. Couple them up to the Tourney 7 speed push button shifters ($15 on Amazon includes both shifters, housings and cables), and you are good to go. OF course, the Deore thumbies are great too.On pre-STI road bikes, I like first generation Cyclone and late 1980s Superbe Pro. Unfortunately, both are starting to get pricey. On bar ends, the Suntour friction units are great, also increasing in price unfortunately.
07-13-14 | 11:51 PM
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07-13-14 | 11:56 PM
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07-14-14 | 04:41 AM
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Shimano XTR on my Niner Jet 9 RDO- Nothing comes close. I might let a White Industries crank sneak on there this winter just for grins though.
On road? Campy Chorus 10 speed for a modern groupset. It's pretty much set and forget. Plenty of performance for me. However, I did ride a friend's Raleigh Tamland with Ultegra 11 speed last week and I might be talked into that at some point as well. It's very, very nice.
Vintage? I'm with AAZ. I loved the Shimano DA 7400 series. Pretty much ended the Campy fixation for me. I never bothered with Campy again until five years ago when OFG got me interested.
On road? Campy Chorus 10 speed for a modern groupset. It's pretty much set and forget. Plenty of performance for me. However, I did ride a friend's Raleigh Tamland with Ultegra 11 speed last week and I might be talked into that at some point as well. It's very, very nice.
Vintage? I'm with AAZ. I loved the Shimano DA 7400 series. Pretty much ended the Campy fixation for me. I never bothered with Campy again until five years ago when OFG got me interested.
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07-14-14 | 05:09 AM
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And Campy NR, though my Sugino VT crankset is growing on me. Looks good (much like the Suntour Superbe Pro in Post #6 ) and performs very nicely. Plays well with NR.
And Campy NR, though my Sugino VT crankset is growing on me. Looks good (much like the Suntour Superbe Pro in Post #6 ) and performs very nicely. Plays well with NR.
07-14-14 | 06:38 AM
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I've said this before and I think it bears repeating. I'm not sold on the idea of groups/gruppos. BITD, manufacturers did not use groups. For instance, Williams cranks, GB stem, Cinelli handlebar, Phillips pedals, Sturmey rear hub, Bayliss Wiley front hub, Dunlop rims, Terry cable guides, etc... The modern concept of groups, alatmo, is somewhat mystifying.
07-14-14 | 07:28 AM
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