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Old 08-06-14 | 04:39 AM
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Strange logo stamping on the frame

Hi! I've got my bike but it seems like the frame is not bianchi, all marks and texts are stickers. Also, there are two logo stampings in this frame.
I don't have any other stamps. Actually, i cant even find serial number of the frame. I've marked places, where this stamps are.
Does anyone know which frame is this? Thanks!
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Old 08-06-14 | 05:30 AM
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Stamps are 10 Speed Drive Imports. They did not make frames. They were importers as the name suggests.
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Old 08-06-14 | 05:42 AM
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Stamps are 10 Speed Drive Imports. They did not make frames. They were importers as the name suggests.
Cool!! Thanks!! So there is no way to identify the manufacter of the frame?
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7 Bianchi logos visible in the pic- they really wanted it to be a Bianchi.
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Originally Posted by YoKev
Stamps are 10 Speed Drive Imports. They did not make frames. They were importers as the name suggests.

I agree it certainly looks like their logo. Bianchi and few other companies stupidly (IMHO) stopped putting any sort of cartouche on their frames in the late '80s early '90s.
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Old 08-06-14 | 06:33 AM
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7 Bianchi logos visible in the pic- they really wanted it to be a Bianchi.
so this is not bianchi?
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Old 08-06-14 | 06:35 AM
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I agree it certainly looks like their logo. Bianchi and few other companies stupidly (IMHO) stopped putting any sort of cartouche on their frames in the late '80s early '90s.
and is there a way to identify frame? i'm really don't care about if it's real bianchi, or would it be crappy chinese frame, anyway i love my bike and treat it like the best bike in the whole world, but i'm just interested what's the manufacter. Thanks for any help
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and is there a way to identify frame?
Not easily. Importers often contracted with overseas builders to make frames, and which builder won the bid could change from year to year.
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Old 08-06-14 | 07:35 AM
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Not easily. Importers often contracted with overseas builders to make frames, and which builder won the bid could change from year to year.
hm thanks..
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Not that it will help much but is there anything stamped on the dropouts? Any chance the DT is ovalized at the BB shell? Did you look around the bottom of the DT and ST for a serial? Is there one on the dropouts? Anything on the brake bridge?
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Old 08-06-14 | 08:22 AM
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Not that it will help much but is there anything stamped on the dropouts? Any chance the DT is ovalized at the BB shell? Did you look around the bottom of the DT and ST for a serial? Is there one on the dropouts? Anything on the brake bridge?
I've looked for them on all this parts and also double-checked, then few of my friends checked and then touched all parts with fingers, in case i will feel some relief here. We didn't find anything. That's why this is such a mistery
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What is the BB shell width? 70mm (and oversized 36mm diameter cups) would indicate Italian manufacture. Japanese Bianchis have 68mm shells with 1.375" (essentially 35mm) diameter cups.
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What is the BB shell width? 70mm (and oversized 36mm diameter cups) would indicate Italian manufacture. Japanese Bianchis have 68mm shells with 1.375" (essentially 35mm) diameter cups.
i think it's 70mm, rather then 68 (but it's hard to measure 2 mm difference )
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I took the liberty of forwarding these pics to someone at Bianchi USA, the bike is in the US?, not that it makes much difference. He said the decals don't looking like any style he is familiar with, the stamping are certainly not Bianchi, the lugs don't look Bianchi, and there was never any connection in any way with 10 Spd Drive.

Nice looking bike though

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I took the liberty of forwarding these pics to someone at Bianchi USA, the bike is in the US?, not that it makes much difference. He said the decals don't looking like any style he is familiar with, the stamping are certainly not Bianchi, the lugs don't look Bianchi, and there was never any connection in any way with 10 Spd Drive.

Nice looking bike though

Thanks! The strange part is that i don't have any serial number (i've checked it again yesterday) adn othe stamping instead of these 2 logos
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It's interesting because TSD did have a house brand, but it was Tommasso and had T's on the fork and normal cutouts on the lugs.

But there is still a "Ten Speed Drive" shop in Titusville Fla, so maybe they still have the logo rights and had some bikes built?
I looked for a shop web site for them, but no luck.

One other thought is that it might be a logo for Cyclepro. I think the arms are straight on the TSD logo, and those are different - but I couldn't find anything on Cyclepro to back it up.
They imported a bunch of Taiwanese bikes in the 90's.
Thanks, i already emailed them and waiting for reply
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