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Old 08-26-14, 12:40 AM
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Advice on retro color Straight Mixte roadie build

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I have been riding my SS 29er surly karate monkey n my 27 speed mountainie, recently feeling the itch again to buy add a roadie to my collection. My group of cyclist friends starting to make me feel the strains of riding a moutanie among the roadie... Decide to switch over and saw this twin top tube frame with the really nice retro color i like and went straight into visioning for the completed bike. Decided on Gyres retro brown seat n brown taping.... However in the midst of all this, i have forgetten i know nuts about mixte frame and will that affect my ride on a long distance. In the heat of my feverish passion, even got them to do up a drawing for my customize fit.... Will and can any1 help me on this? Thanks




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btw This is a LUGGED Cromoly 4130
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None of your pictures show a mixte. Looks like you found some kind of frame that happens to have two top tubes.
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That is a beautiful frame! I'd have been drooling over that. Not sure it qualifies as a mixte, as that describes a frame that's between a level top tube men's frame and a step through women's frame. But let's not have that get in the way of proceedings. I don't think the twin tubes would greatly influence the ride. What do you want to know?
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
None of your pictures show a mixte. Looks like you found some kind of frame that happens to have two top tubes.
I have no idea what im talking about, google twin/dual top tube roadie and all i get is mixte.. lolz
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
That is a beautiful frame! I'd have been drooling over that. Not sure it qualifies as a mixte, as that describes a frame that's between a level top tube men's frame and a step through women's frame. But let's not have that get in the way of proceedings. I don't think the twin tubes would greatly influence the ride. What do you want to know?
how will this geomeotry affect the ride? not into racing or anything but do clock 150km over 2 time weekly ride, hoping to ride 150km x 2 every weekly. Afterall this is my first roadie... have no idea how to look for. did manage to go in competitivecyclist to do up a measurement and ask the seller to customize the frame n the stem to it...
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Also i will be looking to put in force 22 or 6800... never tried a sram double tap tho....
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I'm not sure that any of us here have ridden enough (any?) double downtube bikes to tell you anything about how the ride is affected. My own suspicion is that the other details of the geometry will be more important than the unusual downtube: Head and seat angles, seat stay length, fork rake, etc.

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From Sheldon Brown:

Mixte
A style of lady's frame in which the "top tube" consists of a pair of small diameter tubes running more-or-less straight from the upper head lug, past the seat tube, and on to the rear fork ends. A mixte frame thus has 3 sets of rear stays, instead of the usual two. A variant on the mixte uses a single, full sized top tube running from the upper head tube to the seat tube, but retains the middle set of stays. A lady's type bike that lacks the middle pair of stays is not a mixte.


Mixte frames are stronger than conventional lady's frames, particularly in resisting the tendency of the seat tube to get pushed backward in the middle when ridden by a heavy rider.

In French, "mixte" is pronounced "MEExt", but normal U.S. bicycle industry pronunciation is "MIX-ty".
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@Icez84- I say just go for it, then tell us what the ride is like. You can be the expert. You may have already figured this out, but on a mixte the "top" tube travels down at an angle, past the seat tube to the rear dropout. More desirable mixtes have 2 thin top tubes and other mixtes (I've even seen "mountain bike" brand mixtes) have a single top tube which then bifurcates at the seat tube down to the rear dropouts. Here's my mixte although you can't see the two top tubes.

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Originally Posted by Icez84
how will this geomeotry affect the ride? not into racing or anything but do clock 150km over 2 time weekly ride, hoping to ride 150km x 2 every weekly. Afterall this is my first roadie... have no idea how to look for. did manage to go in competitivecyclist to do up a measurement and ask the seller to customize the frame n the stem to it...
I think Brent's right; the frame angles will have a bigger influence on the riding experience than the tubes. But if this is you first drop bar bike than the 'Eddy Fit' will be the thing to get used to first.

I see no reason why 150 km should not be a pleasurable event on this bike. And, as everybody here knows, riding a beautiful bike is a lot easier!

As for the parts, I never went beyond 8-speed STI, so can't help you there.
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Super nice frame. Double top and down tubes! Were did you find it? Who's the maker?
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I recently bought a lug set on eBay that looks just like your bike except the lugs aren't stainless. I haven't gone beyond brazing the seattube into the BB shell but I'm hoping the ride will be nice. I wonder if the small chainstays will be noodly though. Please post your impressions of the ride when you get it built up.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris
I'm not sure that any of us here have ridden enough (any?) double downtube bikes to tell you anything about how the ride is affected. My own suspicion is that the other details of the geometry will be more important than the unusual downtube: Head and seat angles, seat stay length, fork rake, etc.

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yea, hence i did upload the geometry with the varies angle of the frame
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
From Sheldon Brown:

Mixte
A style of lady's frame in which the "top tube" consists of a pair of small diameter tubes running more-or-less straight from the upper head lug, past the seat tube, and on to the rear fork ends. A mixte frame thus has 3 sets of rear stays, instead of the usual two. A variant on the mixte uses a single, full sized top tube running from the upper head tube to the seat tube, but retains the middle set of stays. A lady's type bike that lacks the middle pair of stays is not a mixte.


Mixte frames are stronger than conventional lady's frames, particularly in resisting the tendency of the seat tube to get pushed backward in the middle when ridden by a heavy rider.

In French, "mixte" is pronounced "MEExt", but normal U.S. bicycle industry pronunciation is "MIX-ty".

thanks for the inform
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
@Icez84- I say just go for it, then tell us what the ride is like. You can be the expert. You may have already figured this out, but on a mixte the "top" tube travels down at an angle, past the seat tube to the rear dropout. More desirable mixtes have 2 thin top tubes and other mixtes (I've even seen "mountain bike" brand mixtes) have a single top tube which then bifurcates at the seat tube down to the rear dropouts. Here's my mixte although you can't see the two top tubes.


damn sweet looking ride you have there!!!
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
I think Brent's right; the frame angles will have a bigger influence on the riding experience than the tubes. But if this is you first drop bar bike than the 'Eddy Fit' will be the thing to get used to first.

I see no reason why 150 km should not be a pleasurable event on this bike. And, as everybody here knows, riding a beautiful bike is a lot easier!

As for the parts, I never went beyond 8-speed STI, so can't help you there.
Yea i know!!! But since im upgrading, might as well go for something that can lasts. Just yesterday a friend throw me a bone, there's this new home brand of carbon fully built up bike from a china factory... Full carbon, Sram force 22, better wheelset than shimano Rs11(which i getting for the retro looking bike), the all shebang for 50usd cheaper than my current configuration and 2kg lighter @net 7.9kg. Only 50 set.... But i really really worried the carbon will fail on me when riding.....
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Originally Posted by Velognome
Super nice frame. Double top and down tubes! Were did you find it? Who's the maker?
The brand is Diamond, supposedly some german brand however its made in china as with most of the frame nowaday, either taiwan or china..
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Originally Posted by busdriver1959
I recently bought a lug set on eBay that looks just like your bike except the lugs aren't stainless. I haven't gone beyond brazing the seattube into the BB shell but I'm hoping the ride will be nice. I wonder if the small chainstays will be noodly though. Please post your impressions of the ride when you get it built up.

Yea i will, however, the factory does not have any 56,57 size available hence i need to wait for their current production to complete before i can laid my hands on it, which will be 3 weeks later.

PS: Would love to see your ride, show us some photo
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