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The "EX" in SIMPLEX
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I was on the way to town this morning, and when I downshifted to 1st, I heard this terrible crunching noise and my rear wheel locked up. No fault of the derailleur, mind you, just my poor memory to replace that derailleur wheel bolt when I temporized a fix, or, to not shift into 1st before I did so.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=416392 Anyway, I'd like to stick with a better version of what would be period correct for this '75 Peugeot PX-50, does the derailleur on a PX-10 work well? Any recommendations? (Anything other that a plastic-bodied one, that is.) |
I don't remember anything other than the standard plastic simplex on Peugeots of that era, from the cheapest to the most expensive. I'm impressed that plastic worked this long, the front derailleurs were dying contemporaneously because the plastic isn't strong enough
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See:Simplex derailleurs
Finding a good quality bolt-on Simplex rear derailleur for a Peugeot is not going to be easy or economical. |
Just go for a Campy NR instead........
Pretty much the same performance than any Simplex RD you can get from that era, but it will look so much better and also be more reliable because of the all metal construction. |
It'll buff out.
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Originally Posted by jj1091
(Post 17284007)
.... No fault of the derailleur, mind you, just my poor memory to replace that derailleur wheel bolt when I temporized a fix, or, to not shift into 1st before I did so. ....
I think Simplex rear plastic derailleurs suffer by association with the Simplex front plastic derailleurs, which truly are the bane of man's existence on this planet. |
And they shift better than Nuovo Record.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
(Post 17284034)
See:Simplex derailleurs
Finding a good quality bolt-on Simplex rear derailleur for a Peugeot is not going to be easy or economical. |
Simplex LJ and SLJ would be period correct but pricey. Suntour V-Luxe shifts well but would require notching the derailleur hanger for it to work. I cannot tell from your photo if you have a hanger or claw so that may not be an issue for you.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
(Post 17284582)
You proved my point.
I have a few simplex RDs I think I need to put on evilbay to finance my retirement! |
Originally Posted by CV-6
(Post 17284518)
Simplex LJ and SLJ would be period correct but pricey. Suntour V-Luxe shifts well but would require notching the derailleur hanger for it to work. I cannot tell from your photo if you have a hanger or claw so that may not be an issue for you.
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Originally Posted by CV-6
(Post 17284518)
Simplex LJ and SLJ would be period correct but pricey. Suntour V-Luxe shifts well but would require notching the derailleur hanger for it to work. I cannot tell from your photo if you have a hanger or claw so that may not be an issue for you.
I'd look for an SX610 with a claw mount. Prices have gone up, but I have five and I didn't pay more than $20 for any of them. You have to be patient to get a good price. |
Kind of funny the OP neglected the old plastic fantastic and finally killed it. Who would ever expect them to last this long? If anything it proves their worth. Bonus is when the jockey screw/nut went into the wheel, the plastic snaps saving the spokes and dropout.
I probably would scout a LBS and the junk bins for any old derailleur with a claw. Thinking a shop would feel bad for you and give it to you freely. |
Originally Posted by Barrettscv
(Post 17284582)
You proved my point.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
(Post 17284084)
It'll buff out.
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Originally Posted by jj1091
(Post 17287503)
I've got my power buffer attached to my chainsaw at the moment.
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Originally Posted by CV-6
(Post 17284518)
Simplex LJ and SLJ would be period correct but pricey. Suntour V-Luxe shifts well but would require notching the derailleur hanger for it to work. I cannot tell from your photo if you have a hanger or claw so that may not be an issue for you.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=416554 Mine has a claw that has the hole to act as a hanger, for the record. I can attach whatever to it. Anything would be an improvement in the appearance department to the Shimano I stuck on it. |
Originally Posted by jj1091
(Post 17287543)
I saved the "Simplex" metal badge and glued it onto the Shimano derailleur that's now on it, just to mess with the know-it-alls.
Your new "Simplex" looks allsome! |
Originally Posted by auchencrow
(Post 17284111)
So it seems the premature (40 year) failure of this rear derailleur was due to an extenuating circumstance.
think Simplex rear plastic derailleurs suffer by association with the Simplex front plastic derailleurs, which truly are the bane of man's existence on this planet. |
Originally Posted by crank_addict
(Post 17284744)
Kind of funny the OP neglected the old plastic fantastic and finally killed it. Who would ever expect them to last this long? If anything it proves their worth. Bonus is when the jockey screw/nut went into the wheel, the plastic snaps saving the spokes and dropout.
I probably would scout a LBS and the junk bins for any old derailleur with a claw. Thinking a shop would feel bad for you and give it to you freely. |
Originally Posted by jj1091
(Post 17287543)
Yeah, I looked at ebay only long enough to see 2 or 3 prices, geez, one guy wanted like $40 just for the jockey wheels. The only part that was salvageable on mine was the chrome front cage part for the jockey wheels. Anybody want it for $20, plus shipping? Actually, I saved the "Simplex" metal badge and glued it onto the Shimano derailleur that's now on it, just to mess with the know-it-alls.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=416554 Mine has a claw that has the hole to act as a hanger, for the record. I can attach whatever to it. Anything would be an improvement in the appearance department to the Shimano I stuck on it. |
Glad to hear you weren't hurt in that episode. When I saw your note about this RD event in your home-made rack thread I thought to myself that's why engineering something is a better idea than just making it and seeing what happens. But then I figured one would have thought Simplex might have engineered them better. At least that one last a long time, Prestige or not. Failure Mode Analysis doesn't seem to have been part of the deal back then. Where is ISO when you need them?
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Originally Posted by CV-6
(Post 17287601)
So that would in reality be a Shimplex.
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Originally Posted by jj1091
(Post 17287496)
That would be the "quality" part of "Finding a good quality bolt-on Simplex rear derailleur for a Peugeot", right?
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