The "EX" in SIMPLEX
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The "EX" in SIMPLEX
I was on the way to town this morning, and when I downshifted to 1st, I heard this terrible crunching noise and my rear wheel locked up. No fault of the derailleur, mind you, just my poor memory to replace that derailleur wheel bolt when I temporized a fix, or, to not shift into 1st before I did so.

Anyway, I'd like to stick with a better version of what would be period correct for this '75 Peugeot PX-50, does the derailleur on a PX-10 work well? Any recommendations? (Anything other that a plastic-bodied one, that is.)
Anyway, I'd like to stick with a better version of what would be period correct for this '75 Peugeot PX-50, does the derailleur on a PX-10 work well? Any recommendations? (Anything other that a plastic-bodied one, that is.)
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I don't remember anything other than the standard plastic simplex on Peugeots of that era, from the cheapest to the most expensive. I'm impressed that plastic worked this long, the front derailleurs were dying contemporaneously because the plastic isn't strong enough
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See:Simplex derailleurs
Finding a good quality bolt-on Simplex rear derailleur for a Peugeot is not going to be easy or economical.
Finding a good quality bolt-on Simplex rear derailleur for a Peugeot is not going to be easy or economical.
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Just go for a Campy NR instead........
Pretty much the same performance than any Simplex RD you can get from that era, but it will look so much better and also be more reliable because of the all metal construction.
Pretty much the same performance than any Simplex RD you can get from that era, but it will look so much better and also be more reliable because of the all metal construction.
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I think Simplex rear plastic derailleurs suffer by association with the Simplex front plastic derailleurs, which truly are the bane of man's existence on this planet.
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See:Simplex derailleurs
Finding a good quality bolt-on Simplex rear derailleur for a Peugeot is not going to be easy or economical.
Finding a good quality bolt-on Simplex rear derailleur for a Peugeot is not going to be easy or economical.
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Simplex LJ and SLJ would be period correct but pricey. Suntour V-Luxe shifts well but would require notching the derailleur hanger for it to work. I cannot tell from your photo if you have a hanger or claw so that may not be an issue for you.
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I'd look for an SX610 with a claw mount. Prices have gone up, but I have five and I didn't pay more than $20 for any of them. You have to be patient to get a good price.
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Kind of funny the OP neglected the old plastic fantastic and finally killed it. Who would ever expect them to last this long? If anything it proves their worth. Bonus is when the jockey screw/nut went into the wheel, the plastic snaps saving the spokes and dropout.
I probably would scout a LBS and the junk bins for any old derailleur with a claw. Thinking a shop would feel bad for you and give it to you freely.
I probably would scout a LBS and the junk bins for any old derailleur with a claw. Thinking a shop would feel bad for you and give it to you freely.
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You might need a little more speed and a little less torque.
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Mine has a claw that has the hole to act as a hanger, for the record. I can attach whatever to it. Anything would be an improvement in the appearance department to the Shimano I stuck on it.
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Your new "Simplex" looks allsome!
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think Simplex rear plastic derailleurs suffer by association with the Simplex front plastic derailleurs, which truly are the bane of man's existence on this planet.
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I probably would scout a LBS and the junk bins for any old derailleur with a claw. Thinking a shop would feel bad for you and give it to you freely.
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Yeah, I looked at ebay only long enough to see 2 or 3 prices, geez, one guy wanted like $40 just for the jockey wheels. The only part that was salvageable on mine was the chrome front cage part for the jockey wheels. Anybody want it for $20, plus shipping? Actually, I saved the "Simplex" metal badge and glued it onto the Shimano derailleur that's now on it, just to mess with the know-it-alls.

Mine has a claw that has the hole to act as a hanger, for the record. I can attach whatever to it. Anything would be an improvement in the appearance department to the Shimano I stuck on it.
Mine has a claw that has the hole to act as a hanger, for the record. I can attach whatever to it. Anything would be an improvement in the appearance department to the Shimano I stuck on it.
You might want to consider flipping the QR skewer end for end so that the closure is on the non-drive side.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Glad to hear you weren't hurt in that episode. When I saw your note about this RD event in your home-made rack thread I thought to myself that's why engineering something is a better idea than just making it and seeing what happens. But then I figured one would have thought Simplex might have engineered them better. At least that one last a long time, Prestige or not. Failure Mode Analysis doesn't seem to have been part of the deal back then. Where is ISO when you need them?
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Yes, I wish a could find an almost all metal or nearly NOS plastic Simplex at a good price.
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When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
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