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04-30-15, 10:18 PM
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Last summer the mrs. and I toured and camped around Lake Champlain -- mostly pretty flat. Here we are, leaving from Burlington:
I rode my '84 Peugeot P-something, with 52-42-30 in front and 13-32 (6-speed freewheel) in rear. Flipped Nitto moustache bars, Performance Forte Kevlar tires. This bike is one of my daily commuters, and I left the Sanyo dynamo front wheel on; in retrospect, I probably should have used a plain front hub and battery lights. I was pulling a Burley cargo trailer, which was great in that we could carry a cooler, but not so great in that it gave me some kinda serious back pain. The Weinmann center-pull calipers were perfectly adequate for stopping it on all the hills we encountered; not sure I'd trust 'em over the Rockies. I don't have a good picture of the Peuzh with its triple crankset and leather saddle for touring, but here it is in flat-terrain city mode:
My wife rode my mom's 1961 Atala, originally bought for youth-hostel touring on Cape Cod, and updated with the same 52-42-30 triple cranks in an epic process I detailed here. 14-28 in the rear (5-speed freewheel), Brooks B-17 Imperial saddle, flipped Nitto moustache bars.
Both bikes had the same super-cheap Sunlite racks we use around town with Wald folding baskets; after a while with the metal baskets, the upright struts on the rack do tend to bend and the spot-weld between the upright and diagonal strut will break. Nylon ties will hold 'em just fine, though. I am considering investing in stainless-steel racks. On the tour, I didn't have panniers (what with the trailer and all); my wife had Seattle Sports waterproof panniers, which she was pretty happy about.
Anyway, we had a good time. I hope your tour is a blast!
I rode my '84 Peugeot P-something, with 52-42-30 in front and 13-32 (6-speed freewheel) in rear. Flipped Nitto moustache bars, Performance Forte Kevlar tires. This bike is one of my daily commuters, and I left the Sanyo dynamo front wheel on; in retrospect, I probably should have used a plain front hub and battery lights. I was pulling a Burley cargo trailer, which was great in that we could carry a cooler, but not so great in that it gave me some kinda serious back pain. The Weinmann center-pull calipers were perfectly adequate for stopping it on all the hills we encountered; not sure I'd trust 'em over the Rockies. I don't have a good picture of the Peuzh with its triple crankset and leather saddle for touring, but here it is in flat-terrain city mode:
My wife rode my mom's 1961 Atala, originally bought for youth-hostel touring on Cape Cod, and updated with the same 52-42-30 triple cranks in an epic process I detailed here. 14-28 in the rear (5-speed freewheel), Brooks B-17 Imperial saddle, flipped Nitto moustache bars.
Both bikes had the same super-cheap Sunlite racks we use around town with Wald folding baskets; after a while with the metal baskets, the upright struts on the rack do tend to bend and the spot-weld between the upright and diagonal strut will break. Nylon ties will hold 'em just fine, though. I am considering investing in stainless-steel racks. On the tour, I didn't have panniers (what with the trailer and all); my wife had Seattle Sports waterproof panniers, which she was pretty happy about.
Anyway, we had a good time. I hope your tour is a blast!
04-30-15, 10:20 PM
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If you don't mind, may I ask if you're familiar with half step gearing?
The front has a big ring, then a ring that's only like 5T smaller. The cogs on the rear are arranged so that the increments between gears is "half way" between that gear on the big ring and little ring.
So, starting off in the low gear, your first change is going to be to the big ring.
The next gear change is back to the smaller ring and up one cog in the back.
Next gear is to the big ring. Next one is back to the smaller ring and up one cog.
Does that make sense?
A "half step and a granny" is a half step setup with a smaller (28t or so) little chainring as the inner chainring of a triple.
The front has a big ring, then a ring that's only like 5T smaller. The cogs on the rear are arranged so that the increments between gears is "half way" between that gear on the big ring and little ring.
So, starting off in the low gear, your first change is going to be to the big ring.
The next gear change is back to the smaller ring and up one cog in the back.
Next gear is to the big ring. Next one is back to the smaller ring and up one cog.
Does that make sense?
A "half step and a granny" is a half step setup with a smaller (28t or so) little chainring as the inner chainring of a triple.
I get it now, makes almost too much sense. thanks, learning tons today. its dangerous, may lead to spending money.
05-01-15, 05:19 AM
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Yes, for a long while... tossed them about ten years ago. They were pretty reprehensible by that time. Still, I kinda wish I'd kept them.
I do have that jersey, though! It still fits. It's still ugly. It probably still smells....
I do have that jersey, though! It still fits. It's still ugly. It probably still smells....
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My rebuilt '85 Miyata Two-Ten. Great riding, comfortable bike. Here on commute duty, without the baggage.
05-01-15, 03:47 PM
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1983 Trek 620 Rebuild
Finished my winter project, a 1983 Trek 620, which started as a bare frame purchased on Ebay.
I primarily wanted new components with a few vintage parts that made sense, but I mostly wanted to keep a classic touring/randoneering look and feel to the bike. So, this is the outcome. I had the frame cold set for 130mm, had seat tube bottle holder, and front fork rack braze-ons added by a local frame builder (Helm Cycles), and had him strip and repaint the frame without original decals (except the frame tubing decal). Here's a list of how I built the bike:
Intelligent Design Cycles Classy wheelset with front SP PV-8 generator hub
Compass Chinook Pass 700C x 28 mm tires
Shimano HG 11-32 cassette
Berthoud Stainless Fenders with Brooks mud flaps
Nitto Mark's front rack
B&M Secula Plus fender mount tail light
Schmidt Edelux II headlight
Nitto Tallex stem (used)
Nitto Noodle handlebar (used)
Tektro TRP RRL Brake Levers
Tektro R599 bolt on brakes
VO brake cables and housing
Rivendell Silver down tube friction shifters
Huret clamp-on shift lever mounts (NOS)
Brooks B17 saddle
Laprade SR seatpost (used)
MKS GR-9 platform pedals
F.U.B.A.R. toe clips and leather straps
Sugino LR 44/38/28 crank (used)
Shimano UN55 Sealed Bottom Bracket
Shimano Deore XT Front Derailleur M771 9 speed
Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur M310
Cheapo cork and synthetic cork handlebar wrap, with amber shellac
The Altus derailleur may provoke scorn, but with friction shifting, a high end derailleur just doesn't make sense, and I couldn't justify the cost, especially after a significant investment in a fabulous and pricy (albeit happily paid) paint job. My experience so far the shifts have been smooth, quick, and without trouble. What more do I need? I'm so accustomed to down tube friction shifters having used them for the last 48 years I'm quite content. My photos, however, are not the greatest.
I primarily wanted new components with a few vintage parts that made sense, but I mostly wanted to keep a classic touring/randoneering look and feel to the bike. So, this is the outcome. I had the frame cold set for 130mm, had seat tube bottle holder, and front fork rack braze-ons added by a local frame builder (Helm Cycles), and had him strip and repaint the frame without original decals (except the frame tubing decal). Here's a list of how I built the bike:
Intelligent Design Cycles Classy wheelset with front SP PV-8 generator hub
Compass Chinook Pass 700C x 28 mm tires
Shimano HG 11-32 cassette
Berthoud Stainless Fenders with Brooks mud flaps
Nitto Mark's front rack
B&M Secula Plus fender mount tail light
Schmidt Edelux II headlight
Nitto Tallex stem (used)
Nitto Noodle handlebar (used)
Tektro TRP RRL Brake Levers
Tektro R599 bolt on brakes
VO brake cables and housing
Rivendell Silver down tube friction shifters
Huret clamp-on shift lever mounts (NOS)
Brooks B17 saddle
Laprade SR seatpost (used)
MKS GR-9 platform pedals
F.U.B.A.R. toe clips and leather straps
Sugino LR 44/38/28 crank (used)
Shimano UN55 Sealed Bottom Bracket
Shimano Deore XT Front Derailleur M771 9 speed
Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur M310
Cheapo cork and synthetic cork handlebar wrap, with amber shellac
The Altus derailleur may provoke scorn, but with friction shifting, a high end derailleur just doesn't make sense, and I couldn't justify the cost, especially after a significant investment in a fabulous and pricy (albeit happily paid) paint job. My experience so far the shifts have been smooth, quick, and without trouble. What more do I need? I'm so accustomed to down tube friction shifters having used them for the last 48 years I'm quite content. My photos, however, are not the greatest.
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05-01-15, 06:59 PM
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Wow! @denniswaite Your TREK turned out beautifully.
I'm still trying to put the finishing touches on the NISHKI sport thingy I stripped the paint off of, brazed on some bits, then powder coated. Almost done...
BIKE on first ride
BIKE w/ art and rain cover on seat
I'm still trying to put the finishing touches on the NISHKI sport thingy I stripped the paint off of, brazed on some bits, then powder coated. Almost done...
BIKE on first ride
BIKE w/ art and rain cover on seat
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05-02-15, 04:16 AM
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mrv, beautiful colors - and I don't mean the Van Gogh!
05-03-15, 07:58 PM
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Just took my 1980 Schwinn Voyageur out for a 30mi full moon ride last night.
The only original parts are the frame, fork, brake levers and calipers, and stem.
Switched to 700 wheels, triple sakae ovaltech crank, SunTour ratcheting barcons, and SunTour long cage and triple derailleurs which are accushift. The derailleurs are 9ish years off being period correct, but they shift great in friction and I wanted to keep it as all SunTour.
Bottle cages have since been added.
The only original parts are the frame, fork, brake levers and calipers, and stem.
Switched to 700 wheels, triple sakae ovaltech crank, SunTour ratcheting barcons, and SunTour long cage and triple derailleurs which are accushift. The derailleurs are 9ish years off being period correct, but they shift great in friction and I wanted to keep it as all SunTour.
Bottle cages have since been added.
06-20-15, 02:45 PM
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Nice ride!!! The handlebar is a...Grand Cru Chris Rando? How do you like it, whatever it is?
06-20-15, 03:43 PM
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Finished my winter project, a 1983 Trek 620, which started as a bare frame purchased on Ebay.
I primarily wanted new components with a few vintage parts that made sense, but I mostly wanted to keep a classic touring/randoneering look and feel to the bike. So, this is the outcome. I had the frame cold set for 130mm, had seat tube bottle holder, and front fork rack braze-ons added by a local frame builder (Helm Cycles), and had him strip and repaint the frame without original decals (except the frame tubing decal). Here's a list of how I built the bike:
Intelligent Design Cycles Classy wheelset with front SP PV-8 generator hub
Compass Chinook Pass 700C x 28 mm tires
Shimano HG 11-32 cassette
Berthoud Stainless Fenders with Brooks mud flaps
Nitto Mark's front rack
B&M Secula Plus fender mount tail light
Schmidt Edelux II headlight
Nitto Tallex stem (used)
Nitto Noodle handlebar (used)
Tektro TRP RRL Brake Levers
Tektro R599 bolt on brakes
VO brake cables and housing
Rivendell Silver down tube friction shifters
Huret clamp-on shift lever mounts (NOS)
Brooks B17 saddle
Laprade SR seatpost (used)
MKS GR-9 platform pedals
F.U.B.A.R. toe clips and leather straps
Sugino LR 44/38/28 crank (used)
Shimano UN55 Sealed Bottom Bracket
Shimano Deore XT Front Derailleur M771 9 speed
Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur M310
Cheapo cork and synthetic cork handlebar wrap, with amber shellac
The Altus derailleur may provoke scorn, but with friction shifting, a high end derailleur just doesn't make sense, and I couldn't justify the cost, especially after a significant investment in a fabulous and pricy (albeit happily paid) paint job. My experience so far the shifts have been smooth, quick, and without trouble. What more do I need? I'm so accustomed to down tube friction shifters having used them for the last 48 years I'm quite content. My photos, however, are not the greatest.
I primarily wanted new components with a few vintage parts that made sense, but I mostly wanted to keep a classic touring/randoneering look and feel to the bike. So, this is the outcome. I had the frame cold set for 130mm, had seat tube bottle holder, and front fork rack braze-ons added by a local frame builder (Helm Cycles), and had him strip and repaint the frame without original decals (except the frame tubing decal). Here's a list of how I built the bike:
Intelligent Design Cycles Classy wheelset with front SP PV-8 generator hub
Compass Chinook Pass 700C x 28 mm tires
Shimano HG 11-32 cassette
Berthoud Stainless Fenders with Brooks mud flaps
Nitto Mark's front rack
B&M Secula Plus fender mount tail light
Schmidt Edelux II headlight
Nitto Tallex stem (used)
Nitto Noodle handlebar (used)
Tektro TRP RRL Brake Levers
Tektro R599 bolt on brakes
VO brake cables and housing
Rivendell Silver down tube friction shifters
Huret clamp-on shift lever mounts (NOS)
Brooks B17 saddle
Laprade SR seatpost (used)
MKS GR-9 platform pedals
F.U.B.A.R. toe clips and leather straps
Sugino LR 44/38/28 crank (used)
Shimano UN55 Sealed Bottom Bracket
Shimano Deore XT Front Derailleur M771 9 speed
Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur M310
Cheapo cork and synthetic cork handlebar wrap, with amber shellac
The Altus derailleur may provoke scorn, but with friction shifting, a high end derailleur just doesn't make sense, and I couldn't justify the cost, especially after a significant investment in a fabulous and pricy (albeit happily paid) paint job. My experience so far the shifts have been smooth, quick, and without trouble. What more do I need? I'm so accustomed to down tube friction shifters having used them for the last 48 years I'm quite content. My photos, however, are not the greatest.
Holy Cow Dennis- that is exceptionally awesome. I somehow missed this when you originally posted it- but wow!
I do find it kind of interesting that everything on that bike seems to be pretty high end/pricey stuff- but you went with the Altus (which there really is nothing wrong with).
Your bike is fantastic! Thank you for posting it and hope you continue posting here.
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06-20-15, 04:36 PM
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Here is my touring rig. I have yet to take it out touring or camping. I wanted to do some overnights earlier this year but a week before christmas I was hit on my 3 speed I spent 4 months in a leg brace with a torn MCL and then 6 weeks in physical therapy. After this summer I will be spending more time outdoors.
Here it is without my cannonade panniers. I still need to add a front rack so i can mount a basket and maybe front lowriders.
Here it is without my cannonade panniers. I still need to add a front rack so i can mount a basket and maybe front lowriders.
06-20-15, 06:42 PM
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Here is my touring rig. I have yet to take it out touring or camping. I wanted to do some overnights earlier this year but a week before christmas I was hit on my 3 speed I spent 4 months in a leg brace with a torn MCL and then 6 weeks in physical therapy. After this summer I will be spending more time outdoors.
Here it is without my cannonade panniers. I still need to add a front rack so i can mount a basket and maybe front lowriders.
Here it is without my cannonade panniers. I still need to add a front rack so i can mount a basket and maybe front lowriders.
Great looking bike James!
What do you have going on for your brake levers?
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06-24-15, 10:03 PM
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Holy Cow Dennis- that is exceptionally awesome. I somehow missed this when you originally posted it- but wow!
I do find it kind of interesting that everything on that bike seems to be pretty high end/pricey stuff- but you went with the Altus (which there really is nothing wrong with).
Your bike is fantastic! Thank you for posting it and hope you continue posting here.
I do find it kind of interesting that everything on that bike seems to be pretty high end/pricey stuff- but you went with the Altus (which there really is nothing wrong with).
Your bike is fantastic! Thank you for posting it and hope you continue posting here.
03-06-18, 04:32 PM
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Don't think I've posted mine in here yet. It's still a work in progress, and I have yet to do any touring on it, but I'm hoping to change that this year. Still need to add fenders, a lighting system, and some more bags. Probably some lowriders too. It's a 1984 Centurion Elite GT 15
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Don't think I've posted mine in here yet. It's still a work in progress, and I have yet to do any touring on it, but I'm hoping to change that this year. Still need to add fenders, a lighting system, and some more bags. Probably some lowriders too. It's a 1984 Centurion Elite GT 15
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I really like the Altus; the large pulley wheels allow a shorter cage with a 34 tooth rear cog, inexpensive, and frictions 9 speeds just fine, and just as snappy and precise as a Deore, and to my eye is aesthetically pleasing.. Really, with friction, high end derailleurs are over-kill (IMHO). It may weigh a bit more, but no big deal - I'm not racing and I'm not in a lightest bike contest. If I were to upgrade it would likely be a Deore but on this frame and configuration, a shorter cage just looks better to me. Purely subjective! I have a Altus on an even pricier Rivendell bike. Oh, and in the case of a crash and trash, it won't cost $200 or more to replace. I am somewhat of a retrogrouch anyway.
I’ve got a 7803 on one of my Treks, and a 7703 in the stash for that “someday” Rivendell that I will get.
Regardless- it’s a beautiful bike and love so many of the appointments!
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Again, it’s a beautiful bike- But all that beautiful, expensive stuff on there that’s just as susceptible to damage... IMO- the Dura Ace 7703 has the large pulley, but still looks like a classic derailleur and doesn’t have that swoopy “modern-y” plastic-y look that Shimano stuff has now...
I’ve got a 7803 on one of my Treks, and a 7703 in the stash for that “someday” Rivendell that I will get.
Regardless- it’s a beautiful bike and love so many of the appointments!
I’ve got a 7803 on one of my Treks, and a 7703 in the stash for that “someday” Rivendell that I will get.
Regardless- it’s a beautiful bike and love so many of the appointments!
03-08-18, 12:44 PM
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LOL - been there and done that! Cannondales always look like such a serious touring machine all dressed up with the thick tubes. What year and model is yours? I have a 1990 ST400 and I'm guessing yours may be a ST500 of the same vintage? I think that may be the only year with the nearly beer can size downtube.
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03-08-18, 02:04 PM
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Carradice Kendall panniers are not pictured. They are inside the tent attempting to make it not collapse in light breeze.
(BA fly creek tents = useless for California weather)
(BA fly creek tents = useless for California weather)
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03-08-18, 03:39 PM
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One from a few years back before taking off on a trip from Oregon to Montana. 80's something Bianchi MTB with a mix of XT that I no longer ride.
bike loads one by Arnold Powers, on Flickr
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