Hello all

My first post and I am new to vintage bikes. I just acquired two bikes and would really appreciate some help identifying them. My plan is to restore them to as close to new as possible.

The first is a Peugeot, apparently made in South Africa based on the decals. The head tube decal does not match any of the ones I can find on various resource pages.




The second is an unknown. It's been repainted and has no decals. The only identifying mark I can see if the word ESGE stamped on the frame (see pic). The pedals look a lot more modern than the rest of the bike.


Does anyone have any info they could share with me? Thanks a lot.

Simon

The combination of "Peugeot" and "South Africa" is new to me, and I can't add anything.

ESGE is a German company that makes (made) a variety of frame components. The brake bridge on your bike, obviously; probably also lugs and dropouts and that kind of thing. They are not high end components and I've only seen them on bikes made in or near Germany.

Unfortunately, I cannot help a lot...but...wanted to comment on the Peugeot.

Boy...what a "plain" bike...it is just that...a bike...nothing fancy to look at or it appears to ride. That being said...that makes it, IMHO, ultra cool...we spend so much time here on parts, frames, looks, etc. To see just a BIKE that is designed for just GETTING AROUND (or at least that is how the pictures hit me)...is just cool!

BTW...welcome to the Bike Forums!

Thanks RHM. I'll inspect the red bike more Closely at home and see if I can find any other identifying marks.

I think the Peugeot was made in the apartheid days in South Africa, based on this article: Fixed assets: A bicycle frame of mind | Arts and Culture | Art and Design | Mail & Guardian

TLDR: "Hansom/Peugeot (1967 to 1980s):
Bike-maker Gotty Hansen teamed up with French businessman Ettiene Somorjal to establish Hansom cycles. This pair subsequently obtained the licence to produce bicycles under the Peugeot brand. Hansen’s bikes were also produced under the Zini brand. "

I'll post any updates I find.

Simon

That's what appealed to me so much daf1009! I have 3 relatively new, modern bikes but the simplicity of this really grabbed me. I plan to strip it down, rechrome all the shiny bits and have it repainted in a similar, but more "electric" blue. Add brown leather seat and grips and I think it will be grand!

Thanks for the welcome.

s

Is that a Humber style fork on the Peugeot? It's hard to tell zooming in on little pictures. If so, that's really worth saving. Overall, the bikes have some parts like stamped dropouts that indicate low end but each has unique features that make the project a good one.
Please post more pictures of that fork.

Hey busdriver1959 - I had to google a Humber style fork but from the description, I think so.

I love that fork.

on the red bicycle the way the ends are done when combined with the esge plate style bridges suggests an origin from a germanic country.

Further inspection of the red bike last night revealed a serial number and what may be a manufacturer - It looks like the letter OKY in a triangle shape. Serial looks to be 116163234? not sure on the last number.

That's the oldest version of a fat tired Peugeot I've ever seen. Interesting to see that era of decals with 2.125 tires.,,,,BD

The wheels may not be original or could be 650b?

Hey Bikedued

What era would that be exactly? In my interweb trawls I have found very similar decals but they say "Made in France" as opposed to "Made in Southern Africa". An article I found suggested Peugeots were made in South Africa under licence from '67 to the early 80s.

I'd very much like to peg this bike to an approximate year. I have tracked down a guy who used to manage the factory in Cape Town at that period amd sent him an email but no reply yet.

Thanks
Simon

Hey Oddjob2

I agree, the wheels had got Made in Japan on part of the rear assembly.

I've found the serial number on the Peugeot if that helps at all?

Well, I think we've already established that it's not really a Peugeot Peugeot, but a licensed product with the Peugeot name attached to it.

"Hansom/Peugeot (1967 to 1980s):
Bike-maker Gotty Hansen teamed up with French businessman Ettiene Somorjal to establish Hansom cycles. This pair subsequently obtained the licence to produce bicycles under the Peugeot brand. Hansen’s bikes were also produced under the Zini brand. "

They are bikes.