Swapping Double for Triple
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Swapping Double for Triple
I've gotten a lot of good advice regarding my recently acquired Motobecane Inter Club tandem. I now know that I have TA cranks and have ordered the special puller in order to service the bottom brackets. Since I plan to pull the cranks, I'm wondering what would be involved in installing a triple crank in place of the current double.
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Assuming you tandem has TA Cyclotouriste cranks, you'll need a new six chainring bolt kit for the triple (TA ref 86). They've got longer sleeve bolts and extra spacers for the third ring.
Of course, our good friends at pb*bikes eBay have it at about 5 times its normal value. I've seen them pop up on the 'bay for around $25, like this set that ended a few months ago.
Have you checked to see if your BB spindle is long enough for a triple? The triple will require about 6mm more room than a double, possibly requiring a longer BB spindle.
Of course, our good friends at pb*bikes eBay have it at about 5 times its normal value. I've seen them pop up on the 'bay for around $25, like this set that ended a few months ago.
Have you checked to see if your BB spindle is long enough for a triple? The triple will require about 6mm more room than a double, possibly requiring a longer BB spindle.
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I'm not sure about the spindle length, but that's exactly the kind of advice I need before I get in over my head. Thanks.
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With a little luck, someone with specific knowledge of just which spindle is required for that TA crank will chime in eventually. But in general, if you add 6 mm to the drive-side length of an existing double spindle, you'll end up with the right length for a triple. Remove the existing spindle, measure it, and take it from there. If there's a good bike co-op near you, see if they have a box of used spindles you can root through. Assuming that you'll be re-using the original bottom bracket, make sure that the distance between the "ridges" of the new triple spindle matches that of the double spindle.
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Here are some excerpts from TA catalogs showing the bottom bracket spindles:


From this I gather the original spindle should be a TA 344 and the desired replacement a TA 374. What complicates this a bit is that both are available in two different overall lengths, differing on the non-drive side (NDS) part. That is not normally an issue however this is a tandem with NDS sync/timing rings, so you'd probably want to match the existing 17mm or 19mm dimension there. I'd guess that the existing spindle measures 19mm NDS so I don't think it will be an issue since all of the TA 374 spindles I've seen are the 123.5mm overall versions with the 19mm NDS length, like this one: T A 374 Bottom Bracket Spindle 123mm for Triple Crank | eBay
Note one of those charts has an even longer "Tandem" TA 375 spindle, but I believe that was for the tandem crankset version TA offered with the sync/timing rings on the drive-side.


From this I gather the original spindle should be a TA 344 and the desired replacement a TA 374. What complicates this a bit is that both are available in two different overall lengths, differing on the non-drive side (NDS) part. That is not normally an issue however this is a tandem with NDS sync/timing rings, so you'd probably want to match the existing 17mm or 19mm dimension there. I'd guess that the existing spindle measures 19mm NDS so I don't think it will be an issue since all of the TA 374 spindles I've seen are the 123.5mm overall versions with the 19mm NDS length, like this one: T A 374 Bottom Bracket Spindle 123mm for Triple Crank | eBay
Note one of those charts has an even longer "Tandem" TA 375 spindle, but I believe that was for the tandem crankset version TA offered with the sync/timing rings on the drive-side.
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Do you know the current spindle size? I spent a looooong time looking for a TA triple spindle for our tandem, ended up not using the TA anyway. Sutherlands lists as something like 127mm or maybe I misremember. Pull your cranks off the spindle, measure its length (not counting protruding threads if it is nutted instead of bolted), and also see if it has a size code like 3N or 5S or something, then check Sheldon Brown or Sutherland for the meaning of those codes. I may have a TA spindle that will work for you. But maybe not.
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