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Old 01-25-15, 06:11 AM
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Raleigh Gran Sport

I've just acquired a gran sport which I wish to restore. It's Venitian Blue. I have seen a colour code on one of the forums but can no longer find it. Any ideas? Also the year it's stamped number 152461 on the bottom bracket with no letters?

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Old 01-25-15, 06:58 AM
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Is it like this one? This color was on some '74-'75's.
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Old 01-25-15, 07:13 AM
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Welcome! I should let you know the price of admission is always pictures of your project.... For more information (possibly) on your bike try googling "The headbadge" and have a browse through Kurt's site.
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I'm curious why you called it Venetian Blue. I see a white bike. In a snowstorm.

The correct name for the early to mid-70's blue was Lagoon Blue, which was Carlton's racing team color (so it has been said here in C&V - I wouldn't know from personal experience). They made the Gran Sport (spelled several different ways) as either blue/white or white/blue.

Here is mine, like jj1091's, but his picture is a better representation of the color on my monitor.

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Originally Posted by Wheea001 View Post
I've just acquired a gran sport which I wish to restore. It's Venitian Blue. I have seen a colour code on one of the forums but can no longer find it. Any ideas? Also the year it's stamped number 152461 on the bottom bracket with no letters?

Any comments appreciated.

Welcome to C&V Wheea001!

A picture would help greatly.
A 5-digit s/n stamped on the bb shell does not coincide with the years of production for a GS, and the name "Gran Sport" (vs. the fuller "Grand Sports" name) points to a Carlton-made bike from post-late '73.
Also, I have not heard a reference to "Venetian" blue for a Gran Sport - the color was "Lagoon" blue - one of the best colors ever conceived of for any bike, IMHO.

These are wonderful riding bikes by the way, and a very worthy project.
Here's mine:
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I mixed cerulean blue with white to match the Lagoon blue. For scratches and small chips I use acrylic art paints. After they dry a coat of wax will buff it up nice.
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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
Welcome to C&V Wheea001!

A picture would help greatly.
A 5-digit s/n stamped on the bb shell does not coincide with the years of production for a GS, and the name "Gran Sport" (vs. the fuller "Grand Sports" name) points to a Carlton-made bike from post-late '73.
Also, I have not heard a reference to "Venetian" blue for a Gran Sport - the color was "Lagoon" blue - one of the best colors ever conceived of for any bike, IMHO.

These are wonderful riding bikes by the way, and a very worthy project.
Here's mine:
I owned one that was several sizes too small for me, but it was a fancy little bike. It had lots of little red c stamped bolts which some say are campy, and I've heard some claim that they are Carleton. Fun little bike, good luck!!
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I did a repaint of my Grand Sports because the paint job was very rough. Luckily the chrome was in near perfect condition. I used white wheel paint (tough stuff) and Rust-Oleum blue gloss enamel. The blue was almost a perfect match for lagoon blue.




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I mixed cerulean blue with white to match the Lagoon blue. For scratches and small chips I use acrylic art paints. After they dry a coat of wax will buff it up nice.
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Old 01-25-15, 08:56 AM
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/jwrigh...57594494565758

im sorry, I'm new to forums, don't even know how to upload an image yet. It's darker blue, all sanded down now. If it's possible to see the above link? I
t's like this 1961 one. However the badge is just oval, aluminium, no colour.
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Very nice, pretty sure mines older, darker blue. Campaglo 5 speed. Definitely a Gran Sport.
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Cracking bike.
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the bike in the photo album certainly looks like a Gran Prix, two models down from a Gran Sport.
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Originally Posted by Wheea001 View Post
Very nice, pretty sure mines older, darker blue. Campaglo 5 speed. Definitely a Gran Sport.
I believe that yours is one of the early 1960s Gran Sports, a very different machine from those Carlton-built ones shown above. The '62 UK catalog page should be attached.
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Yes, that's the one "flamboyant Venitian blue" serial number doesn't give a year though. Guess I'll stick with early 60,s.
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Pictures are great - and things are cleaning up really nicely! Unfortunately on the serial number the only clue you get from Kurt's site is that 5 digit serial numbers on the bottom bracket point to early 60s (which you already knew).....so no luck there.
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and mines 6 digit. Odd.
Thanks all for the pictures and comments.....friendly group.
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
I mixed cerulean blue with white to match the Lagoon blue.
I mixed Rigelean beer with white, and I'm not quite sure how it turned out.
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October November December .... 10,11,12...... Could this explain the extra digit?
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Possible I suppose but no mention of it on the site mentioned.
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Do you have the original wheelset? The Dunlop lightweight rims are somewhat desirable and have value, as well as the hubs. Throw nothing out.
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Originally Posted by 72Paramount View Post
I owned one that was several sizes too small for me, but it was a fancy little bike. It had lots of little red c stamped bolts which some say are campy, and I've heard some claim that they are Carleton. Fun little bike, good luck!!
It was certainly not Campy (Campagnolo). It was Carlton, without an 'e'. Carlton was a bike company which Raleigh bought in about 1960. Thereafter, Raleigh used the Carlton factory for making most of its high-end bikes.
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It was just an odd occurance I guess that the red c hanger bolt on the campy gs rd matched the red c seat post bolt identically in appearance... Weird.
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Both hubs and front rim original back wheel is German. Thanks for the tip.
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It was just an odd occurance I guess that the red c hanger bolt on the campy gs rd matched the red c seat post bolt identically in appearance... Weird.
the seat post bolt is made by Gripfast and is of Whitworth dimension.

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