hey everybody! i have a little problem. few days ago i bought pretty interesting frame, but when i try identify it, i didnt find any serial numbers, any decals and other familiar stuff. on the top and in the middle of a seat strays and bottom bracket shell written ''ALBERTI". i try to find something in internet, but only information i get - it is about alberti de ferrara bicycle store in italy. does anyone have any information about it? thanks in advance

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It is possibly made for that Alberti cycle shop, see a few examples like that pop up here, have a Van Herwerden myself also badged for a cycle shop. I guess the cost/output got to a level sometime in the 70s / 80s whereby it became economical for shops to get quality batches of bikes made with their own branding like this. Fork and Frame aren't a match tho.

so how i understand, this one is unbranded? just shop sample?

It is branded, on the break bridge, seat stay and bottom bracket - It may have had head badge and downtube stickers that have been removed.

I don't know without doing the research myself, but probably sold their own line of bikes alongside the brands of the day, so this would be a production bike of a sort, not a sample. But they will have sold in smaller numbers, so less examples will be arounf so information may be scarce on them.

Steel Vintage sold one of his bikes and included the below information. Steel Vintage Bikes - Unique Alberti Ferrara Professional Track Bike like Cinelli Laser Pista

Description:
This unique Battaglin Aero track steel bicycle from the 1980s is a real gem! It has been painted and decalled originally by Alberti Ferrara, who was (as far as we know) working in the Battaglin factory. He built this track bike for himself and painted it in his own design! We left it as original as possible. As you can see from the pictures it displays a special paintwork, the top-of-the-line seat from Selle Italia and the great Campagnolo Super Record Pista Crank. This bike including Pedals weighs considerably less than 8kg.
The aerodynamic position, the aero-shaped frame and the low weight will catapult you to high speed.
If you are looking for a really special bike with a really authentic touch to it, this it is!
The aero-shaped frame and Columbus Aero fork reminds us of the famous Cinelli Laser Track bicycle frames!

It will certainly have a rairity cache value and looks to be a good quality frame, doubt you'll find an original fork, but may be better to pair it with something unbranded as the Colango while nice, just clashes with the frame. It's all personal choice at the end of the day tho. Interesting find, I hope more information turns up and you share any progress if you decide to build a bike out of it.

thanks a lot! hope find something more about it!

Looks nice, but yes that Colnago fork is a replacement, so you should check the frame front carefully for collision damage.
The BB shell and brake bridge are both Cinelli products that the builder pantographed with his name...I have never heard of an Alberti before but that is nothing unusual since there are Italian builders galore that we never hear of since their output is either very low or they just never exported. If he built for Battaglin then he was probably no slouch.

actually this colnago fork is mine. i put it together because i bought just the frame. i think i have zero chances to find original fork. but tell me please, how do you know that is the cinneli bb and brake bridge? and how to find out what kind of tubes frame has?

Not sure if there is any features that will tell you the specific tubing but the aero position of the DT shifters probably narrows down the time frame and given the info available on Alberti and the example of the bike linked above, then it's probably not a low end tubing.

The Bottom Bracket and Break Bridge are an off the shelf design manufactured by Cinneli and often used by these small time frame builders - See examples below plus the same break bridge on my Van Herwerden.

^good examples...I'd add that there were plenty of very BIG NAME builders who also used these same Cinelli BB shells (as well as many of the other Cinelli-made frame bits) and had their own names/logos engraved on them (pantographing is what it's often called). In this case the stay eyes (caps) actually have the name investment-cast in them, not engraved.
One clue to the type of tubing used would be the seatpost diameter: 27.2 says probably Columbus SL tubing, 26.8 probably Aelle. Then check inside the BB shell and examine the butt ends of the main tubes in there for 5 internal spiraled ridges...if you find these then you probably have SLX tubing.
Slight chance it could be built with Oria tubing but given the probable age and origin of this frame I don't think there are any other possibilities.
You are right that an original Alberti fork may never turn up, but you can find a more "generic" Columbus bladed fork with a compatible-looking crown that would look like it was made for it: I'd go with all-chrome-plated.