Will going to 700x23 tire from a 700x35 increase speed?
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Other options are the Continental Contacts and Panaracer Tservs, both in 28mm. I have a set of each on road bikes. Both are rated at just over 100 psi both have worked out well for me. The slightly wider tires give me more confidence on rough roads and in gravel, and not being a smallish person I just wanted something more than 25mm. Good luck.
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Go for 25s...23s are too small for you if you want comfort and speed.
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Brian i tried to find those Bonty tires at my LBSs and on the web, do you know where i can order them?
And definitely like what i'm reading about the Jamis bikes, but can't seem to find any locally and tried to see if i could order via the Jensen site but they only have small and medium, so quess i'll have to wait till they get more in stock!
Thanks Brian
BobK
And definitely like what i'm reading about the Jamis bikes, but can't seem to find any locally and tried to see if i could order via the Jensen site but they only have small and medium, so quess i'll have to wait till they get more in stock!
Thanks Brian
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You can put any tire on any width of rim, but I very much doubt you would get good results from anything narrower than 32 on the typical rim width found on hybrids. They are usually much wider than road bike rims. The tire will mount fine, but it won't be wide enough to protect the rim as it should.
But even so, I think you would be disappointed in terms of speed gains. Lighter, narrower tires do make the bike "feel" faster, because rotating weight affects acceleration, but it won't make that much difference in terms of your overall speed. It would be a waste of money. A better idea if you want to change tires on a hybrid would be to buy some slick tires if your current one are the least bit knobby. They can be 32 or even 35. I mean, touring bikes use tires that wide, and they are "road bikes".
Look, you have a bike which is pretty heavy compared to the typical modern road bike. You have an inefficient riding position that doesn't maximize your body's potential, and you also probably present a wider obstacle to air flow due to the wide handlebars with grips at each end that effectively turn you into a braking parachute. So, it's going to make it harder to maintain the same speeds as a road bike on the same road and with the same wind. Also, a person your weight would have to inflate 23's rock hard. Be prepared for a rough ride.
But even so, I think you would be disappointed in terms of speed gains. Lighter, narrower tires do make the bike "feel" faster, because rotating weight affects acceleration, but it won't make that much difference in terms of your overall speed. It would be a waste of money. A better idea if you want to change tires on a hybrid would be to buy some slick tires if your current one are the least bit knobby. They can be 32 or even 35. I mean, touring bikes use tires that wide, and they are "road bikes".
Look, you have a bike which is pretty heavy compared to the typical modern road bike. You have an inefficient riding position that doesn't maximize your body's potential, and you also probably present a wider obstacle to air flow due to the wide handlebars with grips at each end that effectively turn you into a braking parachute. So, it's going to make it harder to maintain the same speeds as a road bike on the same road and with the same wind. Also, a person your weight would have to inflate 23's rock hard. Be prepared for a rough ride.
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Ok good points on the rim width "Lf", i'll need to double check my rim width and be sure what i've got before ordering tires and i'll be sure to use that rim width tire chart on the previous page!
So lately, i'm starting to look at the hybrid in a different light, ie more like a local cruiser and also as a work out resistance machine that'l be good preparation for long road bike trips on the WOD, makes alot more sense now!
Thanks again all for the very informative inputs!
BobK
So lately, i'm starting to look at the hybrid in a different light, ie more like a local cruiser and also as a work out resistance machine that'l be good preparation for long road bike trips on the WOD, makes alot more sense now!
Thanks again all for the very informative inputs!
BobK
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I just got some City Slicks that I bought cheap off of performance bikes. I put about 20 miles on them tonight and I thought I'd just note some observations.
Bike: 2005 Giant Sedona...hybrid, comfort..I don't know what its classified as or what the difference is...rim size probably. Original tires were pretty slick except for the outer edges had pretty decent treads. It also still has a suspension fork...which is soon to depart.
Observations: The old tires were 26x1.95 and took about 65 psi.
New slicks are 26x1.25 and take about 85 psi...of course I pumped these babies to the max
Slicks definetaly make the bike faster. I really noticed it when coasting. It seems to want to coast much longer now. I can maintain 20 mph on flats pretty easily now where as before 18 mph on flats seemed to be the norm. Problem now seems to be that I run out of gears...around 20-24 mph I'm pushing 80 to 90 on the cadence in top gear...but I still need the low gears for working on hills.
The new slicks also make for a much bumpier ride. Higher psi tires and an aluminum frame has little dampening, so that doesn't help. The front fork doesn't seem to dampen much either. We'll see if it gets better or worse with the chrome-moly rigid fork next week hopefully. I'm thinking worse, but I could be wrong. Overall, if you want to buy your way to go faster...seems to be the way to go ....if your a cheap-ass like me.
Eventually, I plan to make this bike into full time commuter-work bike and then give in and buy a nice road bike for long distance tours, weekend rides...so for now it works.
Bike: 2005 Giant Sedona...hybrid, comfort..I don't know what its classified as or what the difference is...rim size probably. Original tires were pretty slick except for the outer edges had pretty decent treads. It also still has a suspension fork...which is soon to depart.
Observations: The old tires were 26x1.95 and took about 65 psi.
New slicks are 26x1.25 and take about 85 psi...of course I pumped these babies to the max
Slicks definetaly make the bike faster. I really noticed it when coasting. It seems to want to coast much longer now. I can maintain 20 mph on flats pretty easily now where as before 18 mph on flats seemed to be the norm. Problem now seems to be that I run out of gears...around 20-24 mph I'm pushing 80 to 90 on the cadence in top gear...but I still need the low gears for working on hills.
The new slicks also make for a much bumpier ride. Higher psi tires and an aluminum frame has little dampening, so that doesn't help. The front fork doesn't seem to dampen much either. We'll see if it gets better or worse with the chrome-moly rigid fork next week hopefully. I'm thinking worse, but I could be wrong. Overall, if you want to buy your way to go faster...seems to be the way to go ....if your a cheap-ass like me.
Eventually, I plan to make this bike into full time commuter-work bike and then give in and buy a nice road bike for long distance tours, weekend rides...so for now it works.
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Originally Posted by bobk544
Brian i tried to find those Bonty tires at my LBSs and on the web, do you know where i can order them?
And definitely like what i'm reading about the Jamis bikes, but can't seem to find any locally and tried to see if i could order via the Jensen site but they only have small and medium, so quess i'll have to wait till they get more in stock!
Thanks Brian
BobK
And definitely like what i'm reading about the Jamis bikes, but can't seem to find any locally and tried to see if i could order via the Jensen site but they only have small and medium, so quess i'll have to wait till they get more in stock!
Thanks Brian
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Originally Posted by bobk544
Ok good points on the rim width "Lf", i'll need to double check my rim width and be sure what i've got before ordering tires and i'll be sure to use that rim width tire chart on the previous page!
So lately, i'm starting to look at the hybrid in a different light, ie more like a local cruiser and also as a work out resistance machine that'l be good preparation for long road bike trips on the WOD, makes alot more sense now!
Thanks again all for the very informative inputs!
BobK
So lately, i'm starting to look at the hybrid in a different light, ie more like a local cruiser and also as a work out resistance machine that'l be good preparation for long road bike trips on the WOD, makes alot more sense now!
Thanks again all for the very informative inputs!
BobK
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Before I purchased my road bike I tried tweaking my hybrid to make it perform more like a road bike. Changing the tires and dropping the bars improved my speed a bit. However, no matter what you do, it's not going to perform anywhere near a road bike. Now that the road bike bug has bitten you, you'll never be satisfied with your hybrid. I won't put any money into it. Go visit a few other shops to see what they have, talk to their folks, and take some test rides. You'll quickly zero in on what road bike makes sense for you.
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Hi Post42k....since you're from NVA, i've been riding the WOD mainly between Herndon and Mt.Vernon and my hybrids have been fine, mainly cos this stretch is used by many people, roller bladers, joggers and even kiddies with training wheels, so it's somewhat risky to go too fast as you probably know.
But after doing the Herndon to Purceville stretch, that long beautifully paved stretch of rolling farmland, formerly the Washington and Ohio raiload line (WOD), it felt like i was sitting still as 'road bikers' zipped by, many of them in my apparently in my 230+ weight class and this was particularly bothering on the return trip where you can see miles ahead, you're hungry and tired and you see everyone else making great headway back to civiliation...hahahaha!
But i've always wanted to do the Herndon to Purceville stretch and finally got the motvation when planning my Cumberland to WashingtonDC (C&O) canal trip and wanted to find out what the LOE was to get from the C&O, across the Potomac via White's Ferry and back onto the WOD just in case i needed an alternative route. I'm still planning that trip and trying to decide on which bike to take, my Fisher MTB or one of the hybrids, but if i put skinnier tires on the 7300, that'l rule that out which means i'll need to fix up the 7100 which is still a solid bike but the chain skips now an then and will need wider tires for the canal i think.
And yes i definitely have the 'road bike' bug now! but when looking back am glad that i've been biking the 'hard way' on the hybrids, cos when i took the Trek1000 out for a test run, it seemed like i had a whole new resevoir of power and that translates into into a whole new set of adventure options!
Good riding!
BobK
But after doing the Herndon to Purceville stretch, that long beautifully paved stretch of rolling farmland, formerly the Washington and Ohio raiload line (WOD), it felt like i was sitting still as 'road bikers' zipped by, many of them in my apparently in my 230+ weight class and this was particularly bothering on the return trip where you can see miles ahead, you're hungry and tired and you see everyone else making great headway back to civiliation...hahahaha!
But i've always wanted to do the Herndon to Purceville stretch and finally got the motvation when planning my Cumberland to WashingtonDC (C&O) canal trip and wanted to find out what the LOE was to get from the C&O, across the Potomac via White's Ferry and back onto the WOD just in case i needed an alternative route. I'm still planning that trip and trying to decide on which bike to take, my Fisher MTB or one of the hybrids, but if i put skinnier tires on the 7300, that'l rule that out which means i'll need to fix up the 7100 which is still a solid bike but the chain skips now an then and will need wider tires for the canal i think.
And yes i definitely have the 'road bike' bug now! but when looking back am glad that i've been biking the 'hard way' on the hybrids, cos when i took the Trek1000 out for a test run, it seemed like i had a whole new resevoir of power and that translates into into a whole new set of adventure options!
Good riding!
BobK