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Old 11-29-07, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Foldable Two
Just a thought:

When these saddles were designed 100+ yrs ago the average rider likely weighed 1/2 of many of the folks posting above weigh!

We have all gotten a bit larger and heavier over the last century.
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Originally Posted by dobber
I've got 7 Brooks saddles, the oldest (B17) now having probably 4-5000 on/off road miles on it. Aside from having to tweak the nose and lace the skirt it's in great shape. Tip the scales at ~235ish, plus probably another 10-15 when commuting with a messenger bag.
I weigh 0ver 300, and have a Brooks B-17 I have only used for a few miles. I would like to lace it to minimize sag and not stretch it out prematurely.

What is the process for lacing the skirts? Where should I punch holes? What should I use to lace with?
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I just laced mine 3 weeks ago. Tight as a drum again.
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What is the process for lacing the skirts? Where should I punch holes? What should I use to lace with?[/QUOTE]



Seems like there was a thread somewhere on this within the past few months. Other than that I think www.wallbike.com has pics and info about tying Brooks saddles. If I remember correctly on the thread, the poster cut 1/4" off the saddle skirt of a B-17 and then drilled holes along the edge for tying with leather rawhide. The poster did an excellent job I remembered.

That said, I also think its BS that Brooks would come up with such a lame excuse on an otherwise legitimate warranty claim. Brooks saddles are widely known to be pretty much bomb-proof, so yeah, it does rather dishearten me that they would not honor the OP's claim. I've always advocated them strongly in the past. I mean, I still believe in them, and am a follower of their cult, but just slightly less enthusiastic about them after hearing that crap.

I have the Brooks 'Pro' on my bike, and have about 8000 miles on it. Its been a most excellent saddle.
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Originally Posted by Caincando1
Actually the leather is an integral part of the structure. It keeps the nose and tail from spreading away from each other. If the leather gets to soft or stretches to much the nose and tail will spread apart causing the rails to bend under the weight. I'm not saying they are right to deny the warrantee claim. I just understand how the leather effects the rails.
Also I would think just the repetitive flexing from pedaling would fatigue the rails, even with properly tensioned leather. Still, I don't think there's anything stronger than a Brooks out there. I wonder if there's some way to add an extra structural member between the nose and tail...maybe drill a small hole in the tailpiece and bolt a metal rod or something between it and the nose (might not feel so great if the leather is really sagging though ).
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Originally Posted by Metaluna
Also I would think just the repetitive flexing from pedaling would fatigue the rails, even with properly tensioned leather. Still, I don't think there's anything stronger than a Brooks out there. I wonder if there's some way to add an extra structural member between the nose and tail...maybe drill a small hole in the tailpiece and bolt a metal rod or something between it and the nose (might not feel so great if the leather is really sagging though ).
You could rig something up, but it would negate the whole purpose of the saddle's design. The slight flex at the rails due to the bowing of the leather is what gives a suspended leather saddle its comfort. It dampens road chatter and allows for some soak when you hit a crack in the pavement, etc. If you took away the ability of the saddle's frame to flex, then you lose any feel of elasticity and damping that it had.
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