Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
Reload this Page >

Pedalling While Out of the Seat

Search
Notices
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

Pedalling While Out of the Seat

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-19-10 | 05:08 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From: Georgia
Pedalling While Out of the Seat

The 2010 Novara Randonee is the bike that has come the most close to fitting me in a long time for a road style bike. I am obviously overweight and not very flexible. The stock bike is almost perfect while riding seated since it has the relaxed head tube angle.

However, I cannot seem to find any leverage when I stand to pedal. When I stand to pedal on bikes in the past I usually could use the bars for some leverage.

Is there anything that I can do to the stock setup on the Randonee that will help when I stand to pedal? I'm guessing that I would have to give up some comfort while pedalling seated to get what I want to pedal while standing.

Oh well, I thought I would ask anyway.
mkwdrs is offline  
Reply
Old 08-19-10 | 05:13 PM
  #2  
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 23,208
Likes: 10,653
From: Seattle, WA
Are you riding on the brake hoods when you stand up to pedal? What happens at this point?

What type of shoes and pedals are you using?
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Reply
Old 08-19-10 | 05:20 PM
  #3  
dbikingman's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Titanium
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Registered
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 0
From: Spokane/Tri-Cities WA

Bikes: mountain bike, road bike

Just looking at the bike I can't see why you can't get any leverage. I know on my bike I shift to a lower gear and that allows me to alter my position over the bike. If I'm in to high of a gear the pedaling is too easy and I can't get leverage as the pedaling is too soft.
dbikingman is offline  
Reply
Old 08-19-10 | 05:34 PM
  #4  
CliftonGK1's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,373
Likes: 8
From: Columbus, OH

Bikes: '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2015 Trek Domane 6.2 disc

Hands on hoods, junk towards stem.
Seriously, when you're doing a steep standing climb, lean your weight forward over the front end of the bike more than you usually would. I find that putting my weight forward of the cranks a bit adds that extra leverage to the pedals I'm looking for.
__________________
"I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
- Mandi M.
CliftonGK1 is offline  
Reply
Old 08-19-10 | 05:38 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From: Georgia
I have tried all hand positions on the bars while standing. I am wearing a croc type of shoe currently. I have used clipless before and I would get the same results. I think the whole issue is that the head tube is so relaxed that the bars are almost to close to the seat. As I said, it feels about perfect riding while sitting. But when I stand to pedal, the bars are so close to you that you almost cannot get any leverage. Maybe I need to move the bars a tad farther away. Due to a stiff back, I do not want to move the bars much further away, but I think that I would have to in order to get some good leverage to pedal while standing. I think that I am looking for something that does not exist. Meaning, the reach will be too far to be comfy to get good leverage while standing and vice versa. Oh well, I will have to pick between the two I guess or search for a compromise.
mkwdrs is offline  
Reply
Old 08-19-10 | 05:51 PM
  #6  
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
Banned.
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,894
Likes: 5
From: Upland Ca

Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem

Is the handlebar width the same?
Mr. Beanz is offline  
Reply
Old 08-19-10 | 06:14 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,695
Likes: 0
From: NorCal

Bikes: Kestrel Talon

I don't think you need to move your weight forward much when standing to climb - i know I keep my weight back, with the nose of the saddle hitting my butt on each pedal stroke. This brings the muscles on the back of your legs into it. As long as I don't get crazy (the temptation when standing is to accelerate and go fast) I can climb like that 5 - 10 minutes and use that to let my normal cycling muscles recover on a long climb. Although you won't get as much of a benefit if your feet aren't clipped in.

How much higher are the handle bars on this bike than on your old bike? Are they higher than the saddle? That might be part of the problem.

I still think the shoes might be part of the problem. I can't imagine trying to stand on a climb wearing crocs! All you could do is push down, for everything else I'd be expecting my feet to slip. At the very least, try toe clips.

Finally, please don't change a bike fit that works otherwise because of how it feels when standing! You will be seated far more than standing, so you really want to optimize for that (particularly with a bad back). Did you have a bike fit done? I've seen REI do a good job with this, but they completely screwed up the fit on my ex-wife's bike so I've seen them get this pretty wrong, too.

JB
jonathanb715 is offline  
Reply
Old 08-20-10 | 04:06 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 646
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR

Bikes: Surly LHT set up for commuting

I can't imagine trying to stand on a climb wearing crocs!
You beat me to it while I was scraping my jaw off the floor. Some shoes with a firm sole might seriously improve matters.

If I'm in to high of a gear the pedaling is too easy and I can't get leverage as the pedaling is too soft.
+1. When climbing, my cadence is ~45-55 when I'm standing but I'll drop to an easier gear when I'm sitting (and use a higher cadence in the 60-80 range). If I was hammering along at a cadence of 80 while standing I would blow up very quickly.
Greg_R is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
NYSteve
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
18
08-23-16 10:31 AM
HazeT
Road Cycling
16
09-23-15 11:20 AM
ruirui
Road Cycling
33
07-31-12 08:26 PM
wribbs
Road Cycling
38
10-01-10 05:22 PM
mkwdrs
Touring
6
08-19-10 09:02 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.