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you should revisit that thought. I'm thinking the compression shorts are restricting way too much blood flow. It might of have worked on a hybrid, but a roadie is different angles and body rides at different angles.
IMO....Unless your doing 200+ miles on a ride or 12+ hrs, compression tights/shorts are overkill on a bike.
If you don't like the feel of your bibs, then go buy a different brand. They all fit slightly different
IMO....Unless your doing 200+ miles on a ride or 12+ hrs, compression tights/shorts are overkill on a bike.
If you don't like the feel of your bibs, then go buy a different brand. They all fit slightly different
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I had this until I switched all my bikes to an ISM Adamo saddle, and had a bike fit.
I only get a little numb after 30 miles now, but not much. I even have it on my spin bike. I'll never use anything else.
https://www.ismseat.com/saddle/adamo-road
I only get a little numb after 30 miles now, but not much. I even have it on my spin bike. I'll never use anything else.
https://www.ismseat.com/saddle/adamo-road
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As some others have said, I think your saddle is the wrong one for you. Try another. I'm actually riding a woman's saddle (Terry Butterfly) for the width and the cutout. I used to have the same problem as you using the older Selle Italia Turbo, Rolls and other saddles in the past. You can measure your "sit bones" by sitting on tin foil on a stair step. Then measure the distance between the indentations. If you search a bit, you'll find more info on this. After finding a better saddle, I would recommend a bike fit since you're changing the bike from hybrid to road.
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you rotate your hips forward when the bars are lower practice bending above your hips so they stay more upright ..
and maybe the road bike set up needs a higher bar setup, than as is.
might also just have the single nose off center so you hang off the side..
and stand up on the pedals and get off the bike more often..
and maybe the road bike set up needs a higher bar setup, than as is.
might also just have the single nose off center so you hang off the side..
and stand up on the pedals and get off the bike more often..
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you rotate your hips forward when the bars are lower practice bending above your hips so they stay more upright ..
and maybe the road bike set up needs a higher bar setup, than as is.
might also just have the single nose off center so you hang off the side..
and stand up on the pedals and get off the bike more often..
and maybe the road bike set up needs a higher bar setup, than as is.
might also just have the single nose off center so you hang off the side..
and stand up on the pedals and get off the bike more often..
Now as I stated, I ride with an SMP saddle, so I'm not sure if my circumstance is slightly different, but from what my fitter said, the pelvis rotation should be a help if not a cure.
As a matter of course, it would be prudent for you to get a proper bike fit done anyway. When you think about how much people spend on non necessary extras and upgrades, a proper bike fit is a great investment and relatively cheap. Take note of the measurements once the bike is set up properly and you can transfer the measurements to any bike you go to in the future.
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A picture of the bike as is would help.
I've been through the fit mill. Seat height, seat angle, fore aft and the same with bars all interact. Solving the puzzle can be confusing.
My seat was way too high. Once that was fixed the setback had to change and bar height too. Now I'm back on a very hard saddle and have it tweaked just right and no poking where it shouldn't. The angle only has to be off a degree in either direction and I'm poked or sliding off in a half hour or so. it takes time to get it right.
I've been through the fit mill. Seat height, seat angle, fore aft and the same with bars all interact. Solving the puzzle can be confusing.
My seat was way too high. Once that was fixed the setback had to change and bar height too. Now I'm back on a very hard saddle and have it tweaked just right and no poking where it shouldn't. The angle only has to be off a degree in either direction and I'm poked or sliding off in a half hour or so. it takes time to get it right.
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I use a Toupe +. Good cutout. Great seat. Much better than the Sella Italia which would numb me on rides over 75-80 miles. Used the Toupe in the STP this year...no...problems.
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Can't help you- I've had minor issues there, generally resolved by adjusting tilt of the saddle and my position on the saddle. Certainly shouldn't ever be lasting 2 days later.
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If you're going numb during a ride and it doesn't clear up immediately, you need to do two things: 1) take the problem very seriously if you want to avoid long-term damage to your "equipment", and 2) find a different saddle. You can try all of the little home remedies and they may buy you a few extra minutes before you go numb. In the end, you're very likely to need a different saddle if you want to be long-term comfortable on the bike. FWIW, I'm a big fan of the Selle SMP, ISM Adamo and some WTB saddles. Be aware that the ISM Adamo and Selle SMP saddles in particular will concentrate all of your weight on your sitz bones. If you aren't used to this, it will take some time to get used to it.
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I took my bike to the LBS yesterday to get checked and they said the nose of the saddle was way too high and that was the cause. They dropped it down slightly passed level. I did 15 miles on it this morning and it seemed better. I still had some residual numbness from my Saturday ride so its hard to tell if it made it better or not, but it certainly didn't get any worse.
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Sorry bout the title, I couldn't think of a cute euphemism. After doing 1300+ miles on my hybrids with no issues, two days into riding my new road bike, I've got some numbness happening. It's intense right after the ride, but has typically subsided after two days of no riding. The issue is, I ride every day historically and want to continue.
I've tried two different saddles that worked fine on my Hybrids at a couple of different angles and no difference really. It seems if I go less miles or ride with less intensity, the numbness is less. If I ride hard or long, the numbness is greater.
I'd like to do away with this completely and begin to fully enjoy my new road bike. Anyone have any suggestions on fixes that are known to work? Thanks in advance?
I've tried two different saddles that worked fine on my Hybrids at a couple of different angles and no difference really. It seems if I go less miles or ride with less intensity, the numbness is less. If I ride hard or long, the numbness is greater.
I'd like to do away with this completely and begin to fully enjoy my new road bike. Anyone have any suggestions on fixes that are known to work? Thanks in advance?
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I took my bike to the LBS yesterday to get checked and they said the nose of the saddle was way too high and that was the cause. They dropped it down slightly passed level. I did 15 miles on it this morning and it seemed better. I still had some residual numbness from my Saturday ride so its hard to tell if it made it better or not, but it certainly didn't get any worse.
I have a bit of experience with this sort of thing, though related to hands/wrists, not genitalia. I work in Biotech, and at the startup where I worked they were pushing really hard to meet a deadline. Everyone started experiencing Carpal Tunnel Syndrome symptoms - numbing in the thumb and first 2 1/2 fingers, pain, etc. Two women ignored this and kept on pipetting, and ended up permanently disabled, unable to do the work they'd trained for, and that they'd been doing for 15 years.
So, I'd advise that you don't ignore numbness, don't try to tough it out, or you risk aggravating it and making it permanent.
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I appreciate the concern, but other than testing new setups on the bike, I'm not sure how I'm going to find a solution to it. It is either this or return the bike. It is quite a bit better today, but only time will tell if its truly fixed or not.
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A few years back, I sustained a rotator cuff injury and tried to tough it out. It was a big mistake and I paid the price. Even years later, my shoulder still isn't the same. Now, substitute penis for shoulder, and you get the picture about what could happen to you.
Like anything else, pain and numbness are signals we need to pay attention to. I don't think you need to return your bike, but you shouldn't have any numbness down there. If you do, you haven't addressed the problem completely.
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My current fit and saddle took me through a century with no pain or numbness issues, and there's no reason you can't find a setup that works as well for you. Like I said, it took me 5 saddles to find one that worked that well. And I had to give up on some that I really liked. But that was a decade ago, and I've set up three bikes with the same saddle and the same fit, and they all work great.
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The saddle that came on my 2012 Trek Wahoo 29er hardtail looked great, but it caused me to lose all sensation of penis ownership by mile 14 of my century ride (at which point it felt like I switched teams and gained a vagina ). I joke, but initially it was a scary feeling, as I had absolutely no feeling whatsoever, as though Mr. Winky had fallen off somewhere along the ride.
Simply installing a better saddle greatly extended the range that I could ride before I’d begin to sense some manner of numbness, at which point I’d stand while riding for just 15 to 20 seconds while riding to allow blood flow to that rascal, which eliminates the numbness. This standing while riding for just 15 to 20 seconds every once in a while or at the first sensation of any numbness has become standard riding protocol for me.
Following the above protocol, I rode my 29er to Jim Thorpe, PA and back (a 200-mile ride on August 24, 2013) and I didn’t experience any numbness. My butt didn’t feel like it rode to Jim Thorpe on a couch cushion, but I was easily able to ride the distance and I can hardly wait to do it again!
Incidentally, I was also wearing a large backpack heavily loaded with edible and non-edible provisions for the ride (25 to 30 pounds worth), so I had additional weight on my hands and saddle. My saddle is a Bontrager Sport gel cell ($39.99, I purchased two of them, one for my 29er, one for my Giant Rincon) and I only wear full length dungarees or, as I did on my Jim Thorpe ride, a pair of dungaree cutoffs (no Lycra or padded shorts for me, as I don’t like my junk on display ).
Simply installing a better saddle greatly extended the range that I could ride before I’d begin to sense some manner of numbness, at which point I’d stand while riding for just 15 to 20 seconds while riding to allow blood flow to that rascal, which eliminates the numbness. This standing while riding for just 15 to 20 seconds every once in a while or at the first sensation of any numbness has become standard riding protocol for me.
Following the above protocol, I rode my 29er to Jim Thorpe, PA and back (a 200-mile ride on August 24, 2013) and I didn’t experience any numbness. My butt didn’t feel like it rode to Jim Thorpe on a couch cushion, but I was easily able to ride the distance and I can hardly wait to do it again!
Incidentally, I was also wearing a large backpack heavily loaded with edible and non-edible provisions for the ride (25 to 30 pounds worth), so I had additional weight on my hands and saddle. My saddle is a Bontrager Sport gel cell ($39.99, I purchased two of them, one for my 29er, one for my Giant Rincon) and I only wear full length dungarees or, as I did on my Jim Thorpe ride, a pair of dungaree cutoffs (no Lycra or padded shorts for me, as I don’t like my junk on display ).
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+ 1 Solution is likely as simple as getting a road bike seat with a cut-out. Be wary of cushioned "gel" seat. You'll likely sink down a bit and put some pressure on the perineum. fyi I had prostate surgery May 31 and resume cycling 8 weeks later (I bought the Specialized Romin Expert and I love it; no problems or numbness down below).
Get the weight COMPLETELY off your perineum.
Nothing should touch saddle from your anus on forward-a 2 " swath.
Your "sit bones" are for sitting
Your perineum is NOT designed to be weight bearing.
You will damage nerves
Get a saddle with a HUGE cutout-
AND point the nose down
Yeah it will feel uncomfortable at first,
but the alternative-well numb penis says it pretty well
but you can also damage the tube in your penis-scar or narrow it!
Nothing should touch saddle from your anus on forward-a 2 " swath.
Your "sit bones" are for sitting
Your perineum is NOT designed to be weight bearing.
You will damage nerves
Get a saddle with a HUGE cutout-
AND point the nose down
Yeah it will feel uncomfortable at first,
but the alternative-well numb penis says it pretty well
but you can also damage the tube in your penis-scar or narrow it!
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It's doing a little better after adjusting the saddle down past level. Still some minor numbness that seems to be really slowly getting better though. I think I need to go buy a cut out saddle.
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Specialized Toupe+. I bought it a LBS as a new take off & 45$. Worth.Every.Penny.
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