What have you found on the ground while riding?
#1826
I gave my son all kinds of used tools for Xmas over the years and every year he gave me "THE" look followed by an eye roll. He's in his 50's now and never did learn to use any of them, which is probably just as well.
#1827
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It's usually the dad who is the one who teaches his son to use tools...
I did as much of that for my daughter as I could until she turned 12 and her mom got her a smart phone and now she only wants to play on that and do sports. I take the phone away sometimes and I'm The Bad Guy.
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#1828
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When my (adult) kids need something fixed, I will show them how. I prefer to have them use their hands while I instruct. I annoy them with this. After I'm gone, they might thank me. Or they'll talk about how annoying I was.
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#1829
Why is it just as well?
It's usually the dad who is the one who teaches his son to use tools...
I did as much of that for my daughter as I could until she turned 12 and her mom got her a smart phone and now she only wants to play on that and do sports. I take the phone away sometimes and I'm The Bad Guy.
It's usually the dad who is the one who teaches his son to use tools...
I did as much of that for my daughter as I could until she turned 12 and her mom got her a smart phone and now she only wants to play on that and do sports. I take the phone away sometimes and I'm The Bad Guy.
#1830
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Ah good point. I'm not there yet; my daughter's only 12. Even at only 12, she has lost all interest in fixing anything. She's only interested in sports and friends now.
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#1831
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From: Cental Illinois
Bikes: 1990 Schwinn Curcit is my main bike
HOWEVER I did not teach him how to use those tools. His Grandpa (My retired shop teacher Father-in-law) did the teaching.
As a result I have a son that is a good handyman/shade tree mechanic.
#1832
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It's usually the dad who is the one who teaches his son to use tools...
I did as much of that for my daughter as I could until she turned 12 and her mom got her a smart phone and now she only wants to play on that and do sports. I take the phone away sometimes and I'm The Bad Guy.
I did as much of that for my daughter as I could until she turned 12 and her mom got her a smart phone and now she only wants to play on that and do sports. I take the phone away sometimes and I'm The Bad Guy.
The loss of high school shop classes and dependence on cell phones have turned our youth into a bunch of fast fact finders that can't cut their way out of a paper bag.
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#1833
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-I have trained young healthcare residents surgical procedures in a hospital setting for over 15 years now. It is been my opinion that the young doctors coming to me now have had progressively worse hand skills. Likely from a life time of playing on the phone rather than learning manual skill like sewing, wood carving, model building, leather crafts, auto maintained, cake decorating etc.
The loss of high school shop classes and dependence on cell phones have turned our youth into a bunch of fast fact finders that can't cut their way out of a paper bag.
The loss of high school shop classes and dependence on cell phones have turned our youth into a bunch of fast fact finders that can't cut their way out of a paper bag.
In my own anecdotal observation, when working with my son (currently aged 22) on woodworking projects, he noticeably struggles compared to me in things that require large amounts of hand strength, i.e. using a screwdriver to hand tighten a stubborn screw.
#1834
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-I have trained young healthcare residents surgical procedures in a hospital setting for over 15 years now. It is been my opinion that the young doctors coming to me now have had progressively worse hand skills. Likely from a life time of playing on the phone rather than learning manual skill like sewing, wood carving, model building, leather crafts, auto maintained, cake decorating etc.
The loss of high school shop classes and dependence on cell phones have turned our youth into a bunch of fast fact finders that can't cut their way out of a paper bag.
The loss of high school shop classes and dependence on cell phones have turned our youth into a bunch of fast fact finders that can't cut their way out of a paper bag.
#1835
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I was at a party last night and a friend was boasting about his son, college Jr, who at his internship was faced with a custom-fabricated device (something to do with a vessel for dealing with an object/material in a sealed chamber of inert gas), the device wasn't working well, and he was able to study it, figure out the problem, study up on thread pitches, and order some very specific parts from McMaster-Carr, and get the device working well again. This kid is I guess an exceptional case that reinforces your point; he wastes probably as much time on his phone as the next kid, but he's a violinist & pianist, an avid cook, has taken classes to learn about blacksmithing, etc, so he's quite good with his hands.
#1836
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He's majoring in Materials Science; his direct internship tasking was more about using that inert-gas box, fixing it was just extra, and the employers were impressed (hence the father's boastiness)
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-I have trained young healthcare residents surgical procedures in a hospital setting for over 15 years now. It is been my opinion that the young doctors coming to me now have had progressively worse hand skills. Likely from a life time of playing on the phone rather than learning manual skill like sewing, wood carving, model building, leather crafts, auto maintained, cake decorating etc.
The loss of high school shop classes and dependence on cell phones have turned our youth into a bunch of fast fact finders that can't cut their way out of a paper bag.
The loss of high school shop classes and dependence on cell phones have turned our youth into a bunch of fast fact finders that can't cut their way out of a paper bag.
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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#1838
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I have three very different kids. The one who has the knack does not seem to have the drive. The one who's the smartest does not have the knack, but he will be able to do anything fine after reading about it only once. The one with the most grit is having a hell of a time with reading and math. So I don't really subscribe to "kids these days"
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"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
#1839
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I have three very different kids. The one who has the knack does not seem to have the drive. The one who's the smartest does not have the knack, but he will be able to do anything fine after reading about it only once. The one with the most grit is having a hell of a time with reading and math. So I don't really subscribe to "kids these days"
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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#1841
Found a cell phone along the side of the road. Was locked but was able to get a name, call a number, and get a call back. Turns out was stolen from their vehicle while parked at the beach. They were visiting from out of province. Was able to meet up and return it with about 2hrs before their flight home. 👍
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I've found several combination wrenches and Allen wrenches in the road, as well as a high-viz vest still in plastic wrap. And I found this Snap-On work light:




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Found a cell phone along the side of the road. Was locked but was able to get a name, call a number, and get a call back. Turns out was stolen from their vehicle while parked at the beach. They were visiting from out of province. Was able to meet up and return it with about 2hrs before their flight home. 👍
#1844
well it wasnt quite, but it did all work out. Was stolen the day before. I found it early on my ride, and didnt track him down until later in the day, but still to only have 2hrs before the flight, he was very grateful.
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I was riding my bike along the 101 hwy between El Capiton Beach and Goleta California this last summer. I was approaching a large but "dead" raccoon, with its guts hanging out, as I approached and got next to it, it suddenly moved its head bared his teeth at me and growled at me! If I had a gun, I would have put it out its misery.




