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Old 07-31-15, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
It all depends on your bike and what you feel comfortable carrying. For me, the Road Morph carries easily. It is attached to the rear of the seat tube between it and the rear tire. It is a no brainer on this bike and it has seen a lot of use. I don't have to put it in my bag. Co2 inflators work, but I am more comfortable with a pump since it doesn't need to be replenished. If I got two flats, no problem. Thankfully I haven't had many flats. I just went over 2,000 miles with no flats, then had two in a month. The nice think about the pump was that I could put in a little air, ride a short distance, then change it where it was safer. I then still had a way to pump up the tire.

C02 is a great little option for those who don't want, or cannot carry a pump for some reason. I consider them a second choice for me though.
I've got a pair of CO2 cartridges and an inflator I bought about 20 years ago for my motorcycle I've been carrying around for a few years now, but have never used them on a bicycle tire. The road morph g I got this year is reliable enough to make me think I don't need to carry the CO2 anymore, but I haven't taken it out yet.
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Old 07-31-15, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Leebo View Post
What happens when you get two flats? I love my topeak road morph pump.
Carry at least 2 cylinders.
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Old 07-31-15, 01:26 PM
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I have one of these Blackburn AirSticks mounted on the bottle carrier of all my bikes- AIRSTIK 2STAGE MINI PUMP - Pumps

And also carry this inflater and 3 cartridges- OUTPOST CO2 INFLATOR

I practiced with the CO2 inflator when i first got it, let all the air out of my tires on my Seven Cafe Racer (700x34s). Worked great. I have the Kevlar/puncture resistant/self-healing tires on my bikes, and have not had a flat in years. Have never broken a chain either, but carry a chain tool and quick links anyway. Always nice to be prepared just in case. I usually end up doing more emergency repairs on other peoples bikes than on my own. On one of the paved trails we were riding a couple months ago, there was a young lady with a flat on her cruiser bike. I patched it, filled it with the inflator, could not find any more leaks, and sent her on her way. Worked great. Beat pumping it up manually. Also I put the used cartridges back in my bag and put them in the recycle bin when we get home. My kids pick up all the ones they see that others have thrown on the ground as well for recycling. Don't understand why idiots litter them.
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Old 07-31-15, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Onuris View Post
Carry at least 2 cylinders.
Hasn't happened often but I've had multiple flats on a ride before.
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Old 07-31-15, 02:26 PM
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here for this. i have a patch kit and pump but thinking about getting a spare tube and CO2 cartridges too. maybe just the spare tube...
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Old 07-31-15, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
That can happen when you miss something pocking through the tire when you change the tube. If you miss it, you'll get another flat. And sometimes it can be easy to miss. Another reason a pump is nice insurance.
I know what causes my flats, I wasn't asking.
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Old 07-31-15, 02:54 PM
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I know what causes my flats, I wasn't asking.
I wasn't telling you why you had flats, I was explaining why I like carrying a pump instead of a CO2 inflator.
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Old 07-31-15, 04:29 PM
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I have dreadful luck with Presta valves and chucks, and would be terrified of running out of cartridges just trying to get the tire seated. Therefore I'll stick with a pump.
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Old 07-31-15, 08:30 PM
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I carry a pump and two CO2 cartridges. I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy.
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Old 07-31-15, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
I wasn't telling you why you had flats, I was explaining why I like carrying a pump instead of a CO2 inflator.
Using a pump is a good way to find out where the hole is in the flat tube so you can trace it back to the tire. It's also nice to put a few pounds of air in the new tube before cramming it into the rim/tire.

CO2 is nice to use in order to get the 100psi which is difficult with a pump unless you have a really good pump, But, if it's old, the seals probably won't hold that kind of pressure.
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Old 07-31-15, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by baron von trail View Post
I carry a pump and two CO2 cartridges. I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy.
There's nothing wrong with redundancy. Best of both worlds.
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Old 08-01-15, 04:29 AM
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The only time when I had multiple flats was when there was damage to the plastic rim strip. I was very new to cycling and couldn't figure out what was going on. Had 5 flats, used up the tube and my 4 patches. Was using pump at the time.

Went to LBS and was educated about rim strips. Used the cloth Velox rim strip ever since.

Other than that, never had more than one flat on a ride....that I recall. But it can happen.
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Old 08-01-15, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Here's all the junk in my small saddle pack - two tubes in a sock ...
So that's what they mean by tube socks!
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Old 08-01-15, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
There's nothing wrong with redundancy. Best of both worlds.
lol...truth. I really hate the idea of having to call for help just because I have a flat.

BTW, ever since I've begun using Gatorskins--2009--I have not had a flat out on the road. Worst so far was one flat tire in the garage that I saw when I went out to the bike in the morning. This was with an old tire that had 3500 miles on it that I knew was due for replacement.

I already had the new tire in a box. So, I swapped it out along with the tube, and off I went. I guess, therein lies the challenge: determining when the tire needs replaced. I like getting every last mile out of them, but I hate the idea of getting a flat because I waited a few miles too long.
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Old 08-01-15, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by baron von trail View Post
I carry a pump and two CO2 cartridges. I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy.
I do the same, and also carry a spare tube and a patch kit.
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Old 08-01-15, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by no motor? View Post
I do the same, and also carry a spare tube and a patch kit.
Isn't that like wearing a belt and suspenders with overalls? Anyway, I do the same. I really don't want to have to walk or call for help. Also, in the winter or bad weather, having a way to inflate quickly is good.
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Old 08-01-15, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by alan s View Post
Isn't that like wearing a belt and suspenders with overalls? Anyway, I do the same. I really don't want to have to walk or call for help. Also, in the winter or bad weather, having a way to inflate quickly is good.
That's why I do it.
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Old 08-01-15, 12:58 PM
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IME, if you're a CO2 kinda guy, and you somehow screw up your flat repair, some smug pump-toting pompous pedaller will show up to help you out while giving you a lecture about how cartridges are inferior.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
IME, if you're a CO2 kinda guy, and you somehow screw up your flat repair, some smug pump-toting pompous pedaller will show up to help you out while giving you a lecture about how cartridges are inferior.
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Originally Posted by baron von trail View Post
I carry a pump and two CO2 cartridges. I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy.
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Originally Posted by alan s View Post
Isn't that like wearing a belt and suspenders with overalls? Anyway, I do the same. I really don't want to have to walk or call for help. Also, in the winter or bad weather, having a way to inflate quickly is good.
I am considering getting CO2 for that reason. Any thoughts- would it be best to use a pump and inflater or do these combo devices work well? Something like https://www.ridepdw.com/goods/inflation/magic-flute Or is it a case of compromise where neither works as well as it would as a stand alone device?
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Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
If you shrug off the waste represented by a couple of cartridges, you're probably willing to shrug off other small amounts of waste here and there. But it all adds up.

So you could turn the argument around. If you're conscientious enough to not use CO2 because of the waste, you're probably conscientious enough that you're already minimizing waste in other aspects of your life.
Agreed. If you're willing to throw away a half dozen cartridges a year you're probably willing to drink a dozen or more beer during the year from cans or bottles instead of water from the tap. It's a downward spiral of waste and selfishness...
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Old 08-02-15, 08:15 PM
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Agreed. If you're willing to throw away a half dozen cartridges a year you're probably willing to drink a dozen or more beer during the year from cans or bottles instead of water from the tap. It's a downward spiral of waste and selfishness...
Who would throw away an aluminum cartridge... or a beer can? In America, waste is recycled (or at least recycling is available). I don't know anyone who "land fills" aluminum. You can't make an omelet... without cracking a few eggs.
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Who would throw away an aluminum cartridge... or a beer can? In America, waste is recycled (or at least recycling is available). I don't know anyone who "land fills" aluminum. You can't make an omelet... without cracking a few eggs.
Throw them into the blue bin or wastebin it makes no difference still a waste of energy. No need to use CO2...or drink beer...
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
...... still a waste of energy.
Energy can be wasted? I thought it could only be transformed? What difference could it possibly make anyway? There is more energy available than our species could come close to tapping. You worry too much!
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