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Right hooked, pulling into the library, while towing the Books by Bike trailer

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Old 08-12-15 | 11:23 AM
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Two things,

1) Glad there was no harm done.

2) I think the photo of the Omaha bike and book trailer was taken in the building I work in during one of their promotions.

and B) I crushed a lady's car last year when she pulled out in front of the much larger vehicle I was driving. So sometimes you can drive a truck through some people's blind spots. Or in my case, you can't. (Note: nobody was hurt outside of the pile of wreckage that was her car)
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Old 08-12-15 | 11:23 AM
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Add me to the list of well-wishers. My expressions of irritation on the road would likely be incomprehensible to the offending motorist, since they don't involve the middle finger, and I never catch up with them with enough time to chat.

One nice piece of advice I once read on a Forum is that the closer you get to work, the more calm you should remain with the motorist...the offender might be a customer, co-worker, or your boss.

Good tip!
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Old 08-12-15 | 11:26 AM
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[MENTION=55787]tsl[/MENTION] :

you our are so humble, great to be witness to. Reading your post, I need to adopt that calmness and be grateful for what didn't happen versus being angry for what could have happened.

On on a side note, from someone who loves and cherishes libraries around the U.S., I appreciate what you do.
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Old 08-12-15 | 11:29 AM
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Question: how much do you think it cost to build that trailer?
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Old 08-12-15 | 11:34 AM
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Old 08-12-15 | 11:43 AM
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Glad you're OK. Stories like this really amaze me. How can someone be so obtuse? I assume given his level of intelligence that he was just in the library to use a computer to look at naughty pictures.
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Old 08-12-15 | 11:56 AM
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Question: how much do you think it cost to build that trailer?
That particular BAW trailer can easily go for $1,000 or more, just for the frame and wheels by itself (which IMHO is outrageous but whatever)... so unless they got it used or donated the overall trailer cost plenty more than that.
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Old 08-12-15 | 12:36 PM
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That particular BAW trailer can easily go for $1,000 or more, just for the frame and wheels by itself (which IMHO is outrageous but whatever)... so unless they got it used or donated the overall trailer cost plenty more than that.
The trailir is $750
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Old 08-12-15 | 12:48 PM
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I enjoyed this story. Especially since you were unharmed.
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Old 08-12-15 | 01:01 PM
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Thanks.

Actually, the trailer doesn't open up into anything amazing, although I've seen some that do. Perhaps the most spectacular is this one from Omaha, pulled by an Xtra-cycle. It's built on the same Bikes-At-Work trailer as ours, but they went all fancy schmancy with sliding smoked plexiglas doors and stuff.
While not fancy schmancy, it's very nice and the lighting is just too cool!

Boston's is far smaller,(and based on a Surley trailer) but does open up:https://www.bpl.org/press/tag/bibliocycle/

If first generation library trailers look this good, I can't wait to see what the 2nd generation looks like!

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Old 08-12-15 | 01:10 PM
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I'm glad you made it through that well.

My rule of thumb is that the driver who is behind you believes they are in front of you. Sounds like this guy fits the bill.
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Old 08-12-15 | 01:19 PM
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The trailir is $750
The 96A is $850, where do you see it for $750?
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Old 08-12-15 | 01:51 PM
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Good for you for remaining so composed. And professional.
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Old 08-12-15 | 02:10 PM
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The 96A is $850, where do you see it for $750?
tsl posted the URL of the trailer he uses in a post on the first page.
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Old 08-12-15 | 02:27 PM
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It's almost always better to almost make it on the news, than to actually be on the news.
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Old 08-12-15 | 03:15 PM
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Unfortunately I've given up believing that visibility is somehow the key to safety. Your experience demonstrates the futility of that. I think many (not all, but enough to matter) drivers are operating in "lizard brain" mode while operating a vehicle. Their brain automatically filters out anything that's not a threat to them. The bike and trailer, while quite visible (even the driver admitted it), posed no threat, and he automatically and subconsciously screened out the information, only to be surprised that you were still there. The confused, can't-get-the-story-straight interaction you got was the result of him having seen you but his lizard brain telling him to ignore you.
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Old 08-12-15 | 04:41 PM
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I think you handled the situation well. yelling wouldnt have added anything and by being calm and explaining the possible results, you hopefully were more able to make him think. he will probably think about what you said for the rest of his life
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Old 08-12-15 | 05:56 PM
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I would have preferred "whilst".
But that's the Queen's English. I'm on the wrong side of the lake for that.
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Old 08-12-15 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RidingMatthew
glad you are okay. I bet some plexiglass would make yours much lighter.. how does the solar panel and LED lights work? how long etc?
I think the plexi is about the same density as wood.

The grant is in progress for two more. The next ones will be framed in aluminum extrusions--like the trailer bed itself-- and sheathed in Coroplast. Top will remain wood so we can screw stuff to it.

As for the solar, still to early to have used it much. So no real data as yet.

As for the ones on the roof of the library, averaged out over the full year, we make about 50% of the electricity we consume. It would be higher except that the panels were deliberately installed at only a two-degree angle, in order to test how bad a bad installation can make it. Not only are they too flat for the angle of the sun, but they don't shed snow in the winter. They are getting good data from that installation.
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Old 08-12-15 | 06:03 PM
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How could you miss that trailer?
Well actually, isn't that the goal? Not to hit it? A miss?
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Old 08-12-15 | 06:05 PM
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Man, ever had that trailer in crosswind conditions before?
No. But when it's loaded, there's enough mass that I doubt it would be a sail. As for headwinds, the cross-section isn't much bigger than me and the panniers. It's surprising how little headwinds affect it.
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Old 08-12-15 | 06:09 PM
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Meh. You're apparently ok. Moving along.
Sorry. You were hoping maybe for a little gore?

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Old 08-12-15 | 06:12 PM
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Question: how much do you think it cost to build that trailer?
The base trailer, Bikes-At-Work model 64A, is $750.

Final cost was around $2100. I don't know if labor is factored in since it was built in-house in our facilities department. Bear in mind, I'm a peon and all the budgeting and grant-writing was done three levels and more over my head.
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Old 08-12-15 | 06:19 PM
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Unfortunately I've given up believing that visibility is somehow the key to safety. Your experience demonstrates the futility of that.
Its always been my contention that visibility enhancements are to communicate ones presence to those exercising a reasonable amount of awareness and caution, not to compensate for those who are not.
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Old 08-12-15 | 06:20 PM
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Unfortunately I've given up believing that visibility is somehow the key to safety. Your experience demonstrates the futility of that. I think many (not all, but enough to matter) drivers are operating in "lizard brain" mode while operating a vehicle. Their brain automatically filters out anything that's not a threat to them. The bike and trailer, while quite visible (even the driver admitted it), posed no threat, and he automatically and subconsciously screened out the information, only to be surprised that you were still there. The confused, can't-get-the-story-straight interaction you got was the result of him having seen you but his lizard brain telling him to ignore you.
That squares pretty well with my thoughts.

I think that generally, drivers aren't looking for clear space, they're looking for other cars.
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