U-Lock Pretzel
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U-Lock Pretzel
The other day a co-worker's bike was stolen from a rack in front of our building in broad daylight. She showed me her U-Lock, it had been twisted like a pretzel until it broke (I guess they didn't know a bic pen would be a lot easier).
How could theives do this in broad daylight on a busy downtown sidewalk? What kind of tool would they use that could twist up a U-lock like that?
How could theives do this in broad daylight on a busy downtown sidewalk? What kind of tool would they use that could twist up a U-lock like that?
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They used a pry bar or a piece of pipe or a 2x4. Any lever will do... and it's about the most common way to lose a bike locked with a U-lock. If you use a mini, there won't be enough space for the bad guys to insert the lever...
#4
Originally Posted by ofofhy
Search the forums for "bike thief video" and you will see how someone can do this in broad daylight on a busy street.
OK, so I was bored and went looking for it myself: https://www.compfused.com/directlink/589/
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Originally Posted by ofofhy
OK, so I was bored and went looking for it myself: https://www.compfused.com/directlink/589/
#9
It's basically because most people think of criminal acts as things that happen sneakily. The criminal would be looking around furtively, at night, as he slides up to the bike. Whereas the guy breaking the chain in broad daylight must have lost his key. Especially when he used the angle grinder, no criminal would go to that much trouble (notice he wore proper safety equipment kids!).
That and the general assumption is that most other people are honest. You'd rather assume the guy is the owner who lost his key than a criminal stealing the bike. And no matter what, especially in a big city, you're not likely to be thanked for intervening. If it really is a criminal, you might be endangering yourself by stopping him. And if it's the owner, he's probably pissed as hell that he lost the key and has spent the last 5 minutes with a hacksaw working on his own chain... so when you say hey you stop stealing that bike he's liable to come after YOU with the hacksaw.
That and the general assumption is that most other people are honest. You'd rather assume the guy is the owner who lost his key than a criminal stealing the bike. And no matter what, especially in a big city, you're not likely to be thanked for intervening. If it really is a criminal, you might be endangering yourself by stopping him. And if it's the owner, he's probably pissed as hell that he lost the key and has spent the last 5 minutes with a hacksaw working on his own chain... so when you say hey you stop stealing that bike he's liable to come after YOU with the hacksaw.
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Originally Posted by Eggplant Jeff
That and the general assumption is that most other people are honest.
#11
Originally Posted by Eggplant Jeff
It's basically because most people think of criminal acts as things that happen sneakily. The criminal would be looking around furtively, at night, as he slides up to the bike. Whereas the guy breaking the chain in broad daylight must have lost his key. Especially when he used the angle grinder, no criminal would go to that much trouble (notice he wore proper safety equipment kids!).
That and the general assumption is that most other people are honest. You'd rather assume the guy is the owner who lost his key than a criminal stealing the bike. And no matter what, especially in a big city, you're not likely to be thanked for intervening. If it really is a criminal, you might be endangering yourself by stopping him. And if it's the owner, he's probably pissed as hell that he lost the key and has spent the last 5 minutes with a hacksaw working on his own chain... so when you say hey you stop stealing that bike he's liable to come after YOU with the hacksaw.
That and the general assumption is that most other people are honest. You'd rather assume the guy is the owner who lost his key than a criminal stealing the bike. And no matter what, especially in a big city, you're not likely to be thanked for intervening. If it really is a criminal, you might be endangering yourself by stopping him. And if it's the owner, he's probably pissed as hell that he lost the key and has spent the last 5 minutes with a hacksaw working on his own chain... so when you say hey you stop stealing that bike he's liable to come after YOU with the hacksaw.
A tip... if you find a strange lock on your bike... don't leave it overnight and 'come back in the morning' it's a way to ensure the thief will have time to cut.
#12
Originally Posted by biodiesel
A common trick is for a thief to lock one of their own locks to your bike, then work your lock. Anyone asks and they can show you a "broken" lock and the lock they have a key for.
A tip... if you find a strange lock on your bike... don't leave it overnight and 'come back in the morning' it's a way to ensure the thief will have time to cut.
A tip... if you find a strange lock on your bike... don't leave it overnight and 'come back in the morning' it's a way to ensure the thief will have time to cut.
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Originally Posted by gmacrider
The other day a co-worker's bike was stolen from a rack in front of our building in broad daylight. She showed me her U-Lock, it had been twisted like a pretzel until it broke (I guess they didn't know a bic pen would be a lot easier).
How could theives do this in broad daylight on a busy downtown sidewalk? What kind of tool would they use that could twist up a U-lock like that?
How could theives do this in broad daylight on a busy downtown sidewalk? What kind of tool would they use that could twist up a U-lock like that?
The "pretzel" technique will NOT work when a compact OnGuard U-lock is attached around the rear wheel of the bike (just behind the seat tube) and around a sturdy steel post. Not enough room to insert effective tools and generate the leverage needed.
And, the pretzel technique will not work against the Kryptonite New York lock. If the NYL is attached to the seat tube, a leverage attack will mangle the seat tube, but leave the NYL in "like new" condition. Another reason you should NEVER attach a sturdy U-lock around the frame itself. After a "leverage" attack, your bike will still attached to the rack, but you will need a new frame.
Last edited by alanbikehouston; 05-02-05 at 09:36 PM.
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Originally Posted by Chuckie J
Yeah, but if you find a strange lock on your bike (locked to something solid) you can't take it anyway. If the lock is locked to the bike alone then you can't ride it. What *do* you do?
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