Tailfin kickstarter
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I was mildly interested in a non-weight-weenie/non-potential-customer way until I saw this:
The majority of road bicycles have two different skewer lengths. Bicycles with rim breaks...
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I like how they claim that their product will make one be a faster commuter- and, yes, that is with the laptop. Same goes for the 'you can tour with it', given the rack has a weight limit of 40 lbs...
If you don't get their bag, yours may not fit or might have heel strike if you can't adjust your mounting hardware. Also, I saw no place to mount a light/reflector.
I'll give them props the product overview, but I'm not part of their potential customer base.
If you don't get their bag, yours may not fit or might have heel strike if you can't adjust your mounting hardware. Also, I saw no place to mount a light/reflector.
I'll give them props the product overview, but I'm not part of their potential customer base.
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I like how they claim that their product will make one be a faster commuter- and, yes, that is with the laptop. Same goes for the 'you can tour with it', given the rack has a weight limit of 40 lbs...
If you don't get their bag, yours may not fit or might have heel strike if you can't adjust your mounting hardware. Also, I saw no place to mount a light/reflector.
I'll give them props the product overview, but I'm not part of their potential customer base.
If you don't get their bag, yours may not fit or might have heel strike if you can't adjust your mounting hardware. Also, I saw no place to mount a light/reflector.
I'll give them props the product overview, but I'm not part of their potential customer base.
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Tailfin was fully funded on May 31, as well as two stretch goals (rack adapter thingy and clip-on fender)
Hopefully this will lead to a more affordable iteration of this concept down the line. I like the idea of a quick-release rack for a short bike touring/camping trip.
Hopefully this will lead to a more affordable iteration of this concept down the line. I like the idea of a quick-release rack for a short bike touring/camping trip.
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Tailfin was fully funded on May 31, as well as two stretch goals (rack adapter thingy and clip-on fender)
Hopefully this will lead to a more affordable iteration of this concept down the line. I like the idea of a quick-release rack for a short bike touring/camping trip.
Hopefully this will lead to a more affordable iteration of this concept down the line. I like the idea of a quick-release rack for a short bike touring/camping trip.
About time someone rethought the design of rear racks.
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damn, that's some expensive **** right there.
i'd go with a titanium Tubus rack for that money.
271g and supports 30kg (66#)
https://www.rosebikes.com/article/tu...ack/aid:193895
and that seatpost connector is crap.
i'd go with a titanium Tubus rack for that money.
271g and supports 30kg (66#)
https://www.rosebikes.com/article/tu...ack/aid:193895
and that seatpost connector is crap.
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Well, at least it probably has a market and it's completely stupid. That's a departure from most bicycle based Kickstarters.
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damn, that's some expensive **** right there.
i'd go with a titanium Tubus rack for that money.
271g and supports 30kg (66#)
https://www.rosebikes.com/article/tu...ack/aid:193895
and that seatpost connector is crap.
i'd go with a titanium Tubus rack for that money.
271g and supports 30kg (66#)
https://www.rosebikes.com/article/tu...ack/aid:193895
and that seatpost connector is crap.
The problem with it is that you cannot take the Tubus rack off easily and when you do, you wind up with a handful of little parts that are easily lost. I don't like having the rack on the bike all the time (for a variety of reasons) and want the rack on the bike only for the time I need to use it. Tailfin does that.
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I'm sorry, but this is stupid. The "ultra light" rack weighs 275 grams. A typical, good quality (I'm using the Salsa Alternator Standard Rear Rack as a comparison) aluminum rack weighs 765 grams. That's a difference of 490 grams, or about 1 pound. Load the pannier up with 15 pounds of stuff and that's only a 6% difference in weight. That's next to nothing, and shrinks to virtually nothing when you think about pannier, rider, and bike weight as well. You could get that by drinking a bit out of your water bottle before you started off. You could save even more if you went to the bathroom before you left. I bet most people couldn't even pick the heavier loaded bike (by 1 lb) in a blind comparison test.
This product is a way to get money out of people with lots of money and no sense. Race bikes are not meant to have weight mounted on a rack. That's part of the reason why there are no eyelets. For the price of this rack you could buy an entire other bike on bikesdirect and not have to spoil your precious carbon fiber bike.
Anybody who uses racks for serious commuting or touring will NOT want a carbon fiber rack, and anybody who likes to ride their bike quickly will not want a rack on their bike, period. Again, a product for people with more money than sense.
This product is a way to get money out of people with lots of money and no sense. Race bikes are not meant to have weight mounted on a rack. That's part of the reason why there are no eyelets. For the price of this rack you could buy an entire other bike on bikesdirect and not have to spoil your precious carbon fiber bike.
Anybody who uses racks for serious commuting or touring will NOT want a carbon fiber rack, and anybody who likes to ride their bike quickly will not want a rack on their bike, period. Again, a product for people with more money than sense.
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I'm sorry, but this is stupid. The "ultra light" rack weighs 275 grams. A typical, good quality (I'm using the Salsa Alternator Standard Rear Rack as a comparison) aluminum rack weighs 765 grams. That's a difference of 490 grams, or about 1 pound. Load the pannier up with 15 pounds of stuff and that's only a 6% difference in weight. That's next to nothing, and shrinks to virtually nothing when you think about pannier, rider, and bike weight as well. You could get that by drinking a bit out of your water bottle before you started off. You could save even more if you went to the bathroom before you left. I bet most people couldn't even pick the heavier loaded bike (by 1 lb) in a blind comparison test.
This product is a way to get money out of people with lots of money and no sense. Race bikes are not meant to have weight mounted on a rack. That's part of the reason why there are no eyelets. For the price of this rack you could buy an entire other bike on bikesdirect and not have to spoil your precious carbon fiber bike.
Anybody who uses racks for serious commuting or touring will NOT want a carbon fiber rack, and anybody who likes to ride their bike quickly will not want a rack on their bike, period. Again, a product for people with more money than sense.
This product is a way to get money out of people with lots of money and no sense. Race bikes are not meant to have weight mounted on a rack. That's part of the reason why there are no eyelets. For the price of this rack you could buy an entire other bike on bikesdirect and not have to spoil your precious carbon fiber bike.
Anybody who uses racks for serious commuting or touring will NOT want a carbon fiber rack, and anybody who likes to ride their bike quickly will not want a rack on their bike, period. Again, a product for people with more money than sense.
Too, many times, I want to have the ability to carry some extra food for a picnic or a jacket each for my wife and I when on a long road bike or a more fun ride. Prior to this, had to use a seat pack (one of the larger ones). Try that on a racing frame and you can feel what it does to bike handling.
And I don't want another bike because I'd have a bigger problem of needing a bigger storage area to store it (that problem is *far* more expensive than a rack). Buying another bike just to have for a rack? That sounds really foolish to me.
Just because you don't see the need or it's not your application doesn't mean it's bad product or that others are foolish (or stupid - your word) for buying it just because their needs don't match yours. Apparently a whole lot of people disagree with you when you look at the success of this on kickstarter.
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... or a kitty litter bucket with carbon-fiber weave stickers on it.
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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Would.
For the 100mi/week rider with one bike, occasional long jaunts on the weekend without regard to planning around food stops (or planning at all), and the once-a-year credit card tour, this fits the bill really well.
Hardcore commuting? Not the core market....
For the 100mi/week rider with one bike, occasional long jaunts on the weekend without regard to planning around food stops (or planning at all), and the once-a-year credit card tour, this fits the bill really well.
Hardcore commuting? Not the core market....





