Shimano Metrea: Can we try this again?
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Grams, dude, grams, not dollars. Price was 235 Euros. Relax!
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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Interesting look. I kinda like the crankset, it borrows from the design aesthetic of current road groups. The disc brake calipers have an interesting new design too. But 46-32 -- isn't that basically just a CX crankset? I do like the 1x option too.
I'm confused about the bar-end brifters:
I see one trapezoidal button in there, presumably you push it to the left to downshift, then how do you upshift again? Is there a release button on the other side?
I'm confused about the bar-end brifters:
I see one trapezoidal button in there, presumably you push it to the left to downshift, then how do you upshift again? Is there a release button on the other side?
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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My main interest in this group is in the crankset. I like the 46-32 double with a road-like 43.5 chainline. I've been looking for these to show up on my favorite web sites. So far just bike24 as was said above, but I imagine they'll start making their way through other distribution channels soon. The price on bike24 is pretty close to what I'm seeing for Ultegra cranksets on U.S. sites. Hopefully that will come down a bit.
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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i'm late to the party... but "h bars" also confuses me...
THESE are H bars (titec/jones H bars) and the 1st generation MTB dual control work perfectly for them in a street/touring/commuting setting... lots of hand positions, and can use the controls (both stoppers and shifting) from the grips and the "horns" with comfort

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I'll add... I have a pair of XT brifters that I had installed at one point... I went back to the deore as the xt shift body was a bit more square so when my hands sat further up on the horns with the hands somewhat over the body of the shifters it wasn't as comfortable... so back to the deore I went... I still have the XT as backups and will keep them around until I pick up a pair of deore backups for that inevitable crash that kills one of them...
THESE are H bars (titec/jones H bars) and the 1st generation MTB dual control work perfectly for them in a street/touring/commuting setting... lots of hand positions, and can use the controls (both stoppers and shifting) from the grips and the "horns" with comfort

*edit*
I'll add... I have a pair of XT brifters that I had installed at one point... I went back to the deore as the xt shift body was a bit more square so when my hands sat further up on the horns with the hands somewhat over the body of the shifters it wasn't as comfortable... so back to the deore I went... I still have the XT as backups and will keep them around until I pick up a pair of deore backups for that inevitable crash that kills one of them...
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What is good about the flat mount and the shape of the disc calipers is now you can tuck them on the chain stay behind the seat stay. This is the perfect place for a commuter bike. Having disk brakes on the seat stay was a pain at best. Few years back when they were on the chain stay, many manufactures had to bend the seat stays around the brake which always looked wonky or they had these long swoopy dropouts to accommodate the disc brake. The new style is much more elegant.
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What is good about the flat mount and the shape of the disc calipers is now you can tuck them on the chain stay behind the seat stay. This is the perfect place for a commuter bike. Having disk brakes on the seat stay was a pain at best. Few years back when they were on the chain stay, many manufactures had to bend the seat stays around the brake which always looked wonky or they had these long swoopy dropouts to accommodate the disc brake. The new style is much more elegant.
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Looks cool and glad they are creating and at the same time catering to an important market group of cyclists. Wheels are a bit heavy though the 1x is nice, just limited by only one sized chainring and no ability to add a different chainring due to the unique bolt system. i run a 1x9 with a 48T in the front, 42T is not enough but still a step in the right direction
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52-14 was enough and 42-11 is enough, but that's just my opinion. For myself I'd be more worried about 42-32 being enough. SRAM was kind enough to make their 10-42 cassette compatible with their road 1x groups.
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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I did stop to think about this group a bit more... I spent some time a few years back in Germany and Norway both had so many practical bikes... especially norway... I forget that shimano is a global company and really these groups will cater much more to other countries... I loved seeing all the practical hybrid type bikes with studded tires (beginning of winter when I was around)...
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i'm late to the party... but "h bars" also confuses me...
THESE are H bars (titec/jones H bars) and the 1st generation MTB dual control work perfectly for them in a street/touring/commuting setting... lots of hand positions, and can use the controls (both stoppers and shifting) from the grips and the "horns" with comfort

THESE are H bars (titec/jones H bars) and the 1st generation MTB dual control work perfectly for them in a street/touring/commuting setting... lots of hand positions, and can use the controls (both stoppers and shifting) from the grips and the "horns" with comfort

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Another source... Prices in Euros. Be sure to get your cookies set for USA, otherwise there's VAT. Prices are generally somewhere between 105 and Ultegra level.
https://www.bike-components.de/advan...eywords=metrea
Double crankset €158.82 (a little more than Ultegra)
Single crankset €150.42
H-bar left brake lever €91.60
H-bar brake/shifter lever either side €133.61 (Same as 105-level hydraulic brifters)
Flat bar brake lever either side €33.57 (more than XT BL-M8000)
Flat bar shift lever either side €50.38
FD €24.33
RD €33.57 (just a few bucks more than 105)
Rear caliper €40.29 (between 105 and Ultegra)
Front caliper €41.79
Wheelset €251.26
105 5800 11-32 cassette + chain, set €47.86
SM-RT500 rotor €29.37
Flat bar brake set (levers + calipers) €192.44 (similar XT M8000 set is 142.02)
1x11 H brake set (left lever, right STI, calipers) €343.70
2x11 H brake set (left & right STI) €385.71 (between similar 105 and Ultegra sets)
Complete 1x11 flat bar set including wheels, cassette, rotors, chain, €755.46
The sets cost more than the included major parts. They do have more minor hardware than the components alone (hoses, mineral oil, "olives," other stuff).
https://www.bike-components.de/advan...eywords=metrea
Double crankset €158.82 (a little more than Ultegra)
Single crankset €150.42
H-bar left brake lever €91.60
H-bar brake/shifter lever either side €133.61 (Same as 105-level hydraulic brifters)
Flat bar brake lever either side €33.57 (more than XT BL-M8000)
Flat bar shift lever either side €50.38
FD €24.33
RD €33.57 (just a few bucks more than 105)
Rear caliper €40.29 (between 105 and Ultegra)
Front caliper €41.79
Wheelset €251.26
105 5800 11-32 cassette + chain, set €47.86
SM-RT500 rotor €29.37
Flat bar brake set (levers + calipers) €192.44 (similar XT M8000 set is 142.02)
1x11 H brake set (left lever, right STI, calipers) €343.70
2x11 H brake set (left & right STI) €385.71 (between similar 105 and Ultegra sets)
Complete 1x11 flat bar set including wheels, cassette, rotors, chain, €755.46
The sets cost more than the included major parts. They do have more minor hardware than the components alone (hoses, mineral oil, "olives," other stuff).
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Last edited by Darth Lefty; 09-26-16 at 05:24 PM.
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While we're at it... it seems clear by now, they're not marketing this stuff in America.
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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I wonder why?
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...and it's $1.12 per Euro right now (Edited)
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Last edited by Darth Lefty; 09-27-16 at 10:40 AM.
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