Can't make it to the top of the hill
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With practice, it will get easier. I remember my first hilly commuting route. I just measured it, and it climbs about 180 feet in one mile, so I find it funny that it used to be hard. The first few weeks, I huffed and puffed. Then after some time, I noticed that I reached the top without even thinking about the fact that I was climbing.
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ditto that [MENTION=152773]noglider[/MENTION]. For me it was 75 ft in about .2 miles to get out of my apartment complex, and I flat out couldn't do it the first few times. Over time it became just a short hill to get over. A big granny gear would have come in handy at first though.
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A lower gear makes it easier to get up the hill, but it doesn't help make you stronger at hill climbing. In fact, the higher gear you use, the stronger you get. I learned this when I started commuting on a fixed gear bike. I couldn't shift down; I used the only gear I had. That's when I started getting good at climbing.
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Of course it's possible that you're using the Henry Hudson Bridge, then it's about 120'.
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It's probably not cool to ride an ebike, either. However, I don't really look cool on my carbon fiber road bike either. I'm not going to impress anyone on a bike of any kind. But... I don't have a problem at all with any of the hills on my commute.
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You must be going out of your way to do this climb on your route. Unless you stay on Broadway to 181st instead of using the bike path to ****man Street, the highest hill on your route would be closer to 100' if that.
Of course it's possible that you're using the Henry Hudson Bridge, then it's about 120'.
Of course it's possible that you're using the Henry Hudson Bridge, then it's about 120'.
That first "hilly" commuting route was in 1981, long before they built the path along the river. I worked on W 64 St and lived uptown, just south of Dyckman St. From work (Toga Bike Shop on W 64 St & West End Ave), I took Riverside Dr and turned right onto W 165 St. Then I took St Nicholas Ave until it crossed Broadway, so yes, I was climbing Broadway to W 181 St. Google Maps says it peaks at 187 ft. The 165 St hill was the steepest part, and I remember seeing it as such a challenge. Now it seems like a little bump.
Now I live downtown and work in the Bronx, so it's a reverse commute. I take the bike path. It has a steep section just north of the GW Bridge.
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If you're running out of air it would be good to work on spinning, try riding in the lowest gear you can stand, and pedal fast enough to get to a speed you can tolerate. If you can do that for a while (months) you will really fly when you start choosing to use higher gears.
Also if you're running out of air it doesn't hurt to see a doctor. I had a problem like that once and it turned out to be walking pneumonia. When my wife had the same problem I was wondering if she also had walking pneumonia again but it turned out to be a bunch of pulmonary embolisms.
Also if you're running out of air it doesn't hurt to see a doctor. I had a problem like that once and it turned out to be walking pneumonia. When my wife had the same problem I was wondering if she also had walking pneumonia again but it turned out to be a bunch of pulmonary embolisms.
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On Quiet Rural Roads with no oncoming traffic I Have been Known to take the whole road and make My own switchbacks ..
But I always have my 2 foot gear , as my lowest gear. getting off and Pushing is not shameful.
But I always have my 2 foot gear , as my lowest gear. getting off and Pushing is not shameful.
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I see what your thinking here.
On my tour this past summer I walked out of quite a few river valleys. My bike loaded was about 120lbs most days. That bike has 28/32 gearing. Fall pricing, I bought a new bike, with the lowest gearing being 26/36. I feel this bike will climb a tree. I don't expect to (and don't now) use the Granny gearing. But nice to have when you can see the last twelve vertical feet to climb, and don't want to push, and re-mount at the crest.
Hope this helps.
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On my tour this past summer I walked out of quite a few river valleys. My bike loaded was about 120lbs most days. That bike has 28/32 gearing. Fall pricing, I bought a new bike, with the lowest gearing being 26/36. I feel this bike will climb a tree. I don't expect to (and don't now) use the Granny gearing. But nice to have when you can see the last twelve vertical feet to climb, and don't want to push, and re-mount at the crest.
Hope this helps.
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There also comes a point where you are spinning, and traveling at a speed which is hard to keep stable.
As also pointed out by others. There is no shame in walking a bike up the crest of a hill.
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Oh, and up a hill too. Even better.If you must then you must, I suppose. But that 28/32 should be plenty to get any hill...
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A lower gear makes it easier to get up the hill, but it doesn't help make you stronger at hill climbing. In fact, the higher gear you use, the stronger you get. I learned this when I started commuting on a fixed gear bike. I couldn't shift down; I used the only gear I had. That's when I started getting good at climbing.
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Exactly. I commute by bicycle to get to work. It's not a fitness thing for me. I like to ride for fitness also, but that's a different bike, different route, different time commitment, different clothing, and I don't carry a ton of gear. I get a lot of grief from folks in the forum about an ebike... like it's not really riding a bike or commuting by bike. The motor makes the ride much more comfortable, easier to carry whatever gear I want, gets me to my destination faster... all with the benefits of cycling except for the same fitness level that I would get if I were riding a fixed gear bike (yet everyone rides a geared bike for similar benefits that I get from an ebike.)
It's probably not cool to ride an ebike, either. However, I don't really look cool on my carbon fiber road bike either. I'm not going to impress anyone on a bike of any kind. But... I don't have a problem at all with any of the hills on my commute.
It's probably not cool to ride an ebike, either. However, I don't really look cool on my carbon fiber road bike either. I'm not going to impress anyone on a bike of any kind. But... I don't have a problem at all with any of the hills on my commute.
So, I got an ebike. The exercise is much better than I expected, given I get to pick the assist level. So, just enough assist to keep my knees safe.
I don't see commuting as some challenge the OP should face. If needed, put MTB gearing on your bike and it will no longer be an issue at 26 X 42 (even 50 if you want to go crazy). Or, get an Ebike and just use the minimum assist. Screw cool, get good exercise and call it a day.
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eBikes are an option, but they are heavy and big and not as nimble in city traffic. Besides, for now, I need to get the exercise from bike commuting to control my weight. Some point down the road when I need to bike commute with my kids, then an ebike will make more sense.
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eBikes are an option, but they are heavy and big and not as nimble in city traffic. Besides, for now, I need to get the exercise from bike commuting to control my weight. Some point down the road when I need to bike commute with my kids, then an ebike will make more sense.
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For me though, I don't need an ebike for my current commute. When I need to carry my kids when commuting, I might very likely get an ebike, with a big rack on the back capable for carrying a lot of weight. So far, RADWagon seems to be a good value ebike. But again, it's heavy and not nimble...
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Are you going to do it yourself or have a shop do it for you? Is it an ebike moter kit you are buying?
For me though, I don't need an ebike for my current commute. When I need to carry my kids when commuting, I might very likely get an ebike, with a big rack on the back capable for carrying a lot of weight. So far, RADWagon seems to be a good value ebike. But again, it's heavy and not nimble...
For me though, I don't need an ebike for my current commute. When I need to carry my kids when commuting, I might very likely get an ebike, with a big rack on the back capable for carrying a lot of weight. So far, RADWagon seems to be a good value ebike. But again, it's heavy and not nimble...
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Are you going to do it yourself or have a shop do it for you? Is it an ebike moter kit you are buying?
For me though, I don't need an ebike for my current commute. When I need to carry my kids when commuting, I might very likely get an ebike, with a big rack on the back capable for carrying a lot of weight. So far, RADWagon seems to be a good value ebike. But again, it's heavy and not nimble...
For me though, I don't need an ebike for my current commute. When I need to carry my kids when commuting, I might very likely get an ebike, with a big rack on the back capable for carrying a lot of weight. So far, RADWagon seems to be a good value ebike. But again, it's heavy and not nimble...
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When I do commute with my kids, then a big a sturdy ebike makes sense. Nimble and light is out of the picture at that point.
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I am not commuting with kids at the moment. For city traffic, light and nimble bike allow me to maneuver better - sometimes filter through stuck cars, sometimes lift my bike to the sidewalk, etc.
When I do commute with my kids, then a big a sturdy ebike makes sense. Nimble and light is out of the picture at that point.
When I do commute with my kids, then a big a sturdy ebike makes sense. Nimble and light is out of the picture at that point.






