who has the right of way?
 

I had a little situation this morning. Is assumed practice for everyone to just yield like it's a stop sign? If not, then who has the right of way, A or B?
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B has the right of way. Vehicle A is entering onto a new road. When entering a road the vehicle already on the road has the right of way.

Agree. But if B is a bicycle and A is a vehicle, for my own self if I was B, I would slow down, I am mindful of a public service advertisement from long ago 'You could be dead right'.

was going to say something similar, the person going straight has the right of way. like at an intersection with 2 vehicles facing each other. if the person turning has to cross the path of the person going straight, the person going straight has the right of way

B still has the right of way. lots of cars don't stop at stop signs or think because they are in a "car" they have the right of way, but they don't actually. this is where a bright front strobe comes in handy. it gets you a bit more courtesy from car drivers. but you're right about "judgement" don't want to be right, but dead

that's what I thought..

this moron (A) was going like 20 mph in to the turn, crossing over into the opposite lane, as I (B) was rolling in to the 3 way junction. I agree I should've had my lights on, even though it was plenty bright already.

At an 'uncontrolled' intersection the rig entering a new road must yield.

Are these 2 roads, or two, like, driveways within a parking lot? Around here parking lots are not regulated, and police won't come to car accidents within them.

I found myself driving the other day in the driving part of a parking lot (I was heading to exit the lot) and realized another guy was racing me across the parking spots! He had to detour to avoid a shopping cart corral so I got there first without actually joining the race.

too many close calls to ride on roads w/o strobes front & rear, even in daylight. may not always be necessary & might even look foolish to others, but there's that 1 split second where the strobe can help avoid a death, mine in particular! :-)

the tee is where the road actually leads into the parking lot

agreed

Rule of thumb, whoever is in an intersection first has a right of way. Both approaching, car on the right has right of way. Straight traffic has right of way over turning. These are somewhat contradictory for the OP situation - ROW can be more fluid than strict rules. In that situation I think that I always yield to the car unless he stops.

If I feel I have right of way over a car and I'm on my bike, I try to make it clear that I plan to take it. I don't yield until I see a clear indication that the other driver is not going to yield.

I always assume they're out to kill me and don't mind taking the extra time to see if they'll wait or not.

So A was entering the parking lot? Then A has the right of way. People in the parking lot have to let others enter so they won't be blocking real roads.

Because you are on a bike you have right of way?? "Feel" must be the operative word here because, otherwise, it makes no sense to me. When I'm driving, I take my right of way regardless of what the bicyclist might feel. Same when I'm on my bike. In either case, I try to be ready to yield.

it's not really a parking lot. it's a road that leads into a parking lot. there are parking spaces right outside the restaurants and coffee shops. the real parking lot is in the box regions where my "no stop sign" label is.

I think they should just put a stop sign there somewhere.

I wasn't saying that at all. Whether one is on a bike and whether one has right of way are independent variables. If both happen to be true, that is how I act. I expect to keep it until I see someone is taking it away, rightly or wrongly.

Ah, OK. I agree completely then.

it kinda depends what country..

In VT On the ice, the pedestrians had better halt.


the one weighing a ton or two, Mass in motion wins ..


Read Your State Vehicle Code Book ? The DMV has them in Print.




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This situation, low speed 90 degree intersections, can be quite dangerous.

If the driver is moving at about the same speed as the bike, the bike pretty much stays in the same place in their field of view (just slowly increasing in size, of course). If they just quick scan for cars, the cyclist can be easily overlooked.

I'd probably either slow or speed up to avoid reaching the corner when the car is nearby.

Regardless, never trust a motorist. If you are B slow down to make sure A isn't going to cut you off. Even then, that's still no guarantee.

I had a similar situation in the dark. I had my helmet light aiming straight at the pickup truck. When I got close enough for the driver to determine I was on a bicycle, he entered.

If there is no sign giving a right of way to one road, or another (stop sign, or a yield sign), and if there are no traffic lights, then the vehicle coming from your right hand side has the right of way. Vehicle A in this case has the right of way.

In the pic below, the green car has the right of way.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...6.02.21-pm.png

Opposite for left hand side driving countries.

Technically this is incorrect. The laws state that an uncontrolled intersection should be treated like a 4-way stop or inoperable stoplight. In other words, you should yield to the car to your right. If they arrive at the same time, vehicle A has the right of way as it is the vehicle to the right.

Unfortunately this is not the way that that most people think and anyone in vehicle A would be foolish to try and assert their right of way.

This is correct. :thumb: