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jimmie65 03-02-17 07:41 AM

Giant Defy
 
My daily commute is about 10 miles each way. Been doing it on my Giant Escape for a while now.
I've got a chance to pick up a Giant Defy really cheap. I think it's a 2015 Defy 3, in good mechanical condition. It's a large frame, so should be the right size (I will definitely test ride it).
The Defy will take a rack and has ample room for water bottles, handlebar bag, etc., so it would be a good commuter.

I'm concerned with switching from an upright hybrid to a drop bar bike. I haven't ridden a drop bar road bike since high school (33 years ago!), other than a Cannondale that I tried and hated.
The Defy seems to have a non-aggressive profile and, from what I've read, I can put a 2" riser on the bars without changing cables.

Any advice or thoughts on switching to a drop bar bike for commuting, specifically the Defy?

I suppose the worst case scenario is that I buy it, don't like it, and then re-sell it.

mcours2006 03-02-17 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by jimmie65 (Post 19413048)
I suppose the worst case scenario is that I buy it, don't like it, and then re-sell it.

Yep. This.

It's not as big a transition as you think. It might take you a few hundred miles to get used to it.

52telecaster 03-02-17 08:08 AM

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Just changed to drop bars again after long absence. I have a 35 degree riser stem an shallow drop bars on an all city space horse. Its been really nice for a 60 yo man. The bike handles better or at least more to my taste. Give it a shot as long as u can afford it

jimmie65 03-02-17 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 19413091)
Just changed to drop bars again after long absence. I have a 35 degree riser stem an shallow drop bars on an all city space horse. Its been really nice for a 60 yo man. The bike handles better or at least more to my taste. Give it a shot as long as u can afford it

I like this setup. I will give it a try.

BobbyG 03-02-17 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by jimmie65 (Post 19413048)
Any advice or thoughts on switching to a drop bar bike for commuting, specifically the Defy?

1)You don't have to have the handlebars very low.

2) For commuting I suggest getting secondary "interrupter" brake levers on the upper portion of the handle bars. These function like the dual handle brake levers of the 70s 10-speed boom, except they are connected by the brake cable, and not a rigid mechanical link. This will let you have quick access to braking when you are riding the uppers which gives you a slightly more upright position which can help with visibility in slow, busiy traffic situations.

3) Consider a glasses-mount or helmet mount mirror. This will let you visually sweep through your rear surroundings with just minor head movement, which helps when you are leaning forward while gripping the brake hoods, or even lower on the drops.

4) I rarely ride in the drops anymore, just when pushing agains a stiff wind.

RubeRad 03-02-17 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 19413091)
Just changed to drop bars again after long absence. I have a 35 degree riser stem an shallow drop bars on an all city space horse. Its been really nice for a 60 yo man. The bike handles better or at least more to my taste. Give it a shot as long as u can afford it

lol I don't know if I would call those drop bars...

52telecaster 03-02-17 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 19414304)
lol I don't know if I would call those drop bars...

I dont know if I'd call you a rube either.

fietsbob 03-02-17 04:12 PM

Giant is the Brand, Defy is the model , you like the shop that sells those?

or used . a frame and a bunch of parts.. it straight? The consumable parts in good shape?





;)

RubeRad 03-02-17 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 19414395)
I dont know if I'd call you a rube either.

touche'!

52telecaster 03-02-17 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 19414410)
touche'!

Actually I'm just an old man thrilled to not need a car. Old ladies at the aldi think I'm homeless.

RubeRad 03-02-17 05:34 PM

That's ok. Low expectations are your friend. Nowhere to go but up.

jimmie65 03-02-17 06:46 PM

Now the place (pawn shop) wants to dicker on price. Still a good price, but not as low as they told me they would go.
I'll give them a couple of days and go back.

AlmostTrick 03-02-17 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 19414416)
Old ladies at the aldi think I'm homeless.

Nah, you'd have to flip the bars over for that.

http://fcdn.roadbikereview.com/attac...ist-barhop.jpg

Snuts 03-02-17 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by jimmie65 (Post 19413048)
My daily commute is about 10 miles each way. Been doing it on my Giant Escape for a while now.
I've got a chance to pick up a Giant Defy really cheap. I think it's a 2015 Defy 3, in good mechanical condition. It's a large frame, so should be the right size (I will definitely test ride it).
The Defy will take a rack and has ample room for water bottles, handlebar bag, etc., so it would be a good commuter.

I'm concerned with switching from an upright hybrid to a drop bar bike. I haven't ridden a drop bar road bike since high school (33 years ago!), other than a Cannondale that I tried and hated.
The Defy seems to have a non-aggressive profile and, from what I've read, I can put a 2" riser on the bars without changing cables.

Any advice or thoughts on switching to a drop bar bike for commuting, specifically the Defy?

I suppose the worst case scenario is that I buy it, don't like it, and then re-sell it.

Last year, I arrived at my sister the cyclists house (2400km tour). In asking if she had a drop bar bike I could try, see if I could ride one. Her friend had a Giant Defi II for sale. Well he offered to let me try it the week I was visiting. I fell in love with it about the second day. I did buy it, shipped it home. I have since raised the bars, and brought them back to make it perfect for me. I have a rear rack on mine, as I travel everywhere with my city saddle bag. Real fun to pack a lunch, and some foul weather gear. Rip off a century on a Sunday, ha-ha and I have more than once last fall.

As others have suggested. You can always use it as a second ride until it is a natural.

Hope this helps,

-Snuts-

Snuts 03-02-17 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 19413091)
Its been really nice for a 60 yo man.

Giv'm hell Russell, ha-ha.
I hope I can enjoy riding (lots of riding) as much as you do.

Mile-on Man !

:ride:

-Snuts-

Classtime 03-02-17 10:11 PM

When you get your new bike, take it for a few spins on the weekend. Then realize that your body will take some time to adjust to your new position. Ride on the tops then spend more and more tine on the hoods and then a little in the drops. I just set aside my regular gendered commuter that has less drop and reach than my more serious road bikes and it has taken my about 110 miles this week to feel like I belong. This is a bike I regularly road 100+ miles last spring.

jimmie65 03-03-17 06:28 AM

I'm going back to bargain with them tomorrow; will let you know how it goes.

I was actually hitting the pawn shops (evidently, there's a merger going on and prices have been cut drastically on old inventory) looking for a upgrade to my beatup Motebecane. They had a gorgeous Rockhopper 29er, excellent shape, reduced to $50. Sadly, it was a 23" frame. I may grab that as well and flip it, though.

52telecaster 03-03-17 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Snuts (Post 19414985)
Giv'm hell Russell, ha-ha.
I hope I can enjoy riding (lots of riding) as much as you do.

Mile-on Man !

:ride:

-Snuts-

I think u put up more miles than I do.... Only had 3000 last year, but nobody enjoys it more than I do. Hell I think I will be car free sometime this year. What's crazy is I am going to have only one bike. I think I need an intervention.

Snuts 03-03-17 12:47 PM

To the original poster, the Defi is a great first drop bar bike (from my experience), less aggressive geometry, light and fast. Only down fall, narrow when it comes to tires, and or fenders. It was not intended for those things. Mine, I struggled to get a 28mm drive tire on it, but did.

Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 19415601)
I think u put up more miles than I do.... Only had 3000 last year, but nobody enjoys it more than I do. Hell I think I will be car free sometime this year. What's crazy is I am going to have only one bike. I think I need an intervention.

I don't care if I did get a few miles on you last year. I'm hope I may be on par with you on enjoyment, but not in any manner surpassing you.

Well, I posted my March goal of 250 miles in with the Clydes (I'm back there, ha-ha) but it is cold again. -18C yesterday, -21C this morning. The sun in powerful though, should be above freezing by Sunday. I'm itching to try my go-fast bike soon (Defi II).

:giver:

-Snuts-

rumrunn6 03-03-17 03:07 PM

don't negotiate until you test ride it. spin the wheels, test the brakes & shifting. look for flaws & mention them. look at wheels while they spin from the top for side to side wobble & from the side for up & down wobble. when you're ready ... take the cash out of your pocket put it on the table & say this: "I'll give you this right now" if the bike is perfect & you get it for your price, terrific. never be afraid to walk - too many bikes out there plus you already have a bike

jimmie65 03-04-17 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by AlmostTrick (Post 19414786)
Nah, you'd have to flip the bars over for that.

http://fcdn.roadbikereview.com/attac...ist-barhop.jpg

Saw someone on CL selling a bike with the bar flipped this morning.
I don't think I'll be trying that.

jimmie65 03-04-17 12:10 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Mf..._=w973-h547-no

Turned out to be slightly older than I was thinking (2011 or maybe 2012). However, couldn't find anything wrong with it other than the bar tape, the crappy pedals, and some dings from being stored. But I mentioned a new saddle, new tires, etc. and got the price down to $200.

Needs: new pedals and a higher stem. I've got some saddles to try on it, and a trunk rack laying around the garage.
The tires are slick so I will upgrade those to something better for the road surfaces I ride. I have some Giant 32mm tires, but I don't think I can fit those in.

I'm going to use it for weekend rides for a while, until I get used to the narrower tires and the drop bars.

mcours2006 03-04-17 01:05 PM

That's a nice find. Congrats.

ColonelSanders 03-04-17 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by jimmie65 (Post 19418253)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mf..._=w973-h547-no

turned out to be slightly older than i was thinking (2011 or maybe 2012). However, couldn't find anything wrong with it other than the bar tape, the crappy pedals, and some dings from being stored. But i mentioned a new saddle, new tires, etc. And got the price down to $200.

Needs: New pedals and a higher stem. I've got some saddles to try on it, and a trunk rack laying around the garage.
The tires are slick so i will upgrade those to something better for the road surfaces i ride. I have some giant 32mm tires, but i don't think i can fit those in.

I'm going to use it for weekend rides for a while, until i get used to the narrower tires and the drop bars.

Hmmmmmm, your photo doesn't show up for me. :twitchy:

jimmie65 03-05-17 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders (Post 19419359)
Hmmmmmm, your photo doesn't show up for me. :twitchy:

Can't seem to get pics to show from either Google Photos or Dropbox.
Here's a smaller pic uploaded.

Switched to a Adamo time trial saddle I have (it looks a lot better on the Defy than it did on the Escape). I will probably switch this out for a Selle Royal Ellipse like I have on my Escape right now.

Tilted the handlebars up a bit. The rise was surprisingly OK. Every bike I own has a riser added to the stem, but doesn't appear I'll need to on the Defy. I'm going to try the current stem for a longer ride, maybe next weekend, but I'm thinking the same length with a 20-30 degree rise.

Kept the 25mm tires and rode about 10 miles. Felt pretty good, though I am still not sure about the tires if/when I start commuting on this bike. We'll see after my first longish ride.

Next up is a handlebar bag. I don't want to weight the bike down with a trunk rack if I can avoid it. I can haul clothes in once a week to the office so I don't have to lug too much daily.

The weirdest part of the ride was using a helmet-mount mirror instead of a handlebar mount. I have monocular vision and my left eye is my weakest, so I have to close the right eye to use the mirror.

ColonelSanders 03-05-17 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by jimmie65 (Post 19420821)
Can't seem to get pics to show from either Google Photos or Dropbox.
Here's a smaller pic uploaded.

Thanks for that.


The bike looks great, it gives you a good base to build on and end up with an excellent commuter.

rumrunn6 03-06-17 09:03 AM

$200 for a modern, brand name, road bike? score! :thumb:

noglider 03-06-17 11:18 AM

My (unsolicited) advice:

- Make the saddle level
- Put the mirror on your right side

This bike looks like fun.

jimmie65 03-06-17 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 19422253)
My (unsolicited) advice:

- Make the saddle level

In the works. Just not sure yet if I want level or slightly above level, so I may get an adjustable stem.


- Put the mirror on your right side
Sometimes, I need someone to point out the obvious. Thanks. Luckily, my mirror came with 2 adhesive mounts.



This bike looks like fun.
So far, it is.

RubeRad 03-06-17 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by jimmie65 (Post 19420821)
The weirdest part of the ride was using a helmet-mount mirror instead of a handlebar mount. I have monocular vision and my left eye is my weakest, so I have to close the right eye to use the mirror.

When I first started using a helmet mirror (take-a-look) I also had a hard time, my eye/brain freaked out trying to resolve the mirror content 2in away from my eye against the background in front of me (frontground behind the mirror?). I also had trouble adjusting the mounting so wasn't staring at my shoulder. After a few days I had it dialed in, and now if I ever ride without it I feel naked, or I guess blind.

My point being, maybe give it a little time on your left side before giving up.


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