Life Saving Airhorn...(again!)
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Life Saving Airhorn...(again!)
Close call on the way to work today. I am at Willamette and Prairie. Although a quiet residential street, Prairie is the only north/south thru street in this neighborhood. And I believe if you are coming south (like this driver) this may be the first stop sign you encounter. In the morning the sun is behind me and I anticipate drivers not coming to a complete stop and I also anticipate he possibility they won't see me (or see me and not stop). Over the last 20 years on this route, out of scores of encounters at this intersection, this is the third panic-inducing close call, and I think the closest, or at least the fastest approach by a car at this intersection. I mean...he wasn't gonna stop. The fish-eye lens makes the distance look a little farther than it was.
I've been using Delta AirZound Airhorns for 23 years and this is just another example of how well it can work. I was wearing a yellow high-vis jersey. And I was not running my lights (which I do at night and on cloudy and rainy days), but he didn't have to see me, just hear me.
Since the rise of cell phones and now, smart phones, the advantage of grabbing the attention of a driver whose eyes are not on the road is undeniable. That may or may not have been the case here, but it does happen more and more.
By the way...If I were to continue straight another 700 yards/meters I would be at the new employee entrance at the US Olympic Training Center, here in Colorado Springs. However I turn south a block before the OTC and pass the velodrome as I ride through Memorial Park. I'm about 2.5 miles into my 9 mile commute here.
I've been using Delta AirZound Airhorns for 23 years and this is just another example of how well it can work. I was wearing a yellow high-vis jersey. And I was not running my lights (which I do at night and on cloudy and rainy days), but he didn't have to see me, just hear me.
Since the rise of cell phones and now, smart phones, the advantage of grabbing the attention of a driver whose eyes are not on the road is undeniable. That may or may not have been the case here, but it does happen more and more.
By the way...If I were to continue straight another 700 yards/meters I would be at the new employee entrance at the US Olympic Training Center, here in Colorado Springs. However I turn south a block before the OTC and pass the velodrome as I ride through Memorial Park. I'm about 2.5 miles into my 9 mile commute here.
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Yeah, I can see that the driver was about to plow through. I don't have a horn, so I might have just slowed down enough to give myself enough time to stop in case the idiot does not.
Did you bleep out the expletives?
Did you bleep out the expletives?
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if i weren't so old and set in my ways, today's strobes and rear lights would be something i would probably buy. when riding my motorcyle i have recently seen a number of cyclists, seemingly a mile away, solely by virtue of their magnificent led lighting. 
did i mention i'm cheap (exacerbated by a fixed income) too?
did i mention i'm cheap (exacerbated by a fixed income) too?
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I have a 500 lumen Niterider MiNewt that I run in flash mode when it's overcast or raining (and of course solid at night). It's always in my backpack...I'm thinking I may start using it.
I have become more wary and cautious over the years. I can't remember the last time I had to do that...but then there's always the ride home!
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I have mine on the handlebar of my commuter bike, where it's easily reached with my left thumb. I can brake and use the horn simultaneously. I keep it pumped up to 80 PSI using a floor pump I keep at home. Sometimes I go for 2 weeks or more between topping-offs; sometimes I have to pump it up every couple days.
My only complaint about this device is that it doesn't work well in the cold, even when it's fully charged. So I don't put it on my "winter" bike.
It's a very useful safety device.
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I've been using one of these for several years. It is a *very* effective tool for getting cars to notice a bike; also the occasional pedestrian or even another cyclist. It does not include a force-field, so the horn-equipped rider still has to leave an "out". But where there is a little wiggle room, it really gets attention. The most spectacular reactions have been from cars jumping their turn at 4-way stops, cars not stopping for a right turn (coming from my right) when I have the right-of-way, and cars merging into my lane. They really don't expect a noise that loud from a bicycle, and I think they may suffer a momentary doubt about whether there is another car they haven't accounted for. The reaction is usually a hard application of the brakes.
I have mine on the handlebar of my commuter bike, where it's easily reached with my left thumb. I can brake and use the horn simultaneously. I keep it pumped up to 80 PSI using a floor pump I keep at home. Sometimes I go for 2 weeks or more between topping-offs; sometimes I have to pump it up every couple days.
My only complaint about this device is that it doesn't work well in the cold, even when it's fully charged. So I don't put it on my "winter" bike.
It's a very useful safety device.
Steve
I have mine on the handlebar of my commuter bike, where it's easily reached with my left thumb. I can brake and use the horn simultaneously. I keep it pumped up to 80 PSI using a floor pump I keep at home. Sometimes I go for 2 weeks or more between topping-offs; sometimes I have to pump it up every couple days.
My only complaint about this device is that it doesn't work well in the cold, even when it's fully charged. So I don't put it on my "winter" bike.
It's a very useful safety device.
Steve
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I used one for a year or two. In NYC (midtown Manhattan) it was useful mainly for moving pedestrians back onto the sidewalk (they like to stand in the bike lane and check their texts while waiting for the light to change, leaving little room for bikes). The thing was loud, but even so, pedestrians tend to ignore it.
I never replaced it after the mount broke.
I never replaced it after the mount broke.
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I prefer to stop/slow down, than rely on the horn to make me safe - both on a bicycle, car, or motorcycle.
This Sunday, on a motorcycle with 2 lights up front, I was still invisible to drivers from side streets, because the sun was low behind me. In a distance of about 10 km ride, 2 drivers had pulled, then raised a hand to apologize for not having seen me. Slowed down before the intersections, ready to stop/swerve.
This Sunday, on a motorcycle with 2 lights up front, I was still invisible to drivers from side streets, because the sun was low behind me. In a distance of about 10 km ride, 2 drivers had pulled, then raised a hand to apologize for not having seen me. Slowed down before the intersections, ready to stop/swerve.
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I've been using one of these for several years. It is a *very* effective tool for getting cars to notice a bike; also the occasional pedestrian or even another cyclist...
I have mine on the handlebar of my commuter bike, where it's easily reached with my left thumb. I can brake and use the horn simultaneously. I keep it pumped up to 80 PSI using a floor pump I keep at home. Sometimes I go for 2 weeks or more between topping-offs; sometimes I have to pump it up every couple days.
My only complaint about this device is that it doesn't work well in the cold, even when it's fully charged. So I don't put it on my "winter" bike.
It's a very useful safety device.
Steve
I have mine on the handlebar of my commuter bike, where it's easily reached with my left thumb. I can brake and use the horn simultaneously. I keep it pumped up to 80 PSI using a floor pump I keep at home. Sometimes I go for 2 weeks or more between topping-offs; sometimes I have to pump it up every couple days.
My only complaint about this device is that it doesn't work well in the cold, even when it's fully charged. So I don't put it on my "winter" bike.
It's a very useful safety device.
Steve
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I can't tell from the video that the driver was not about to stop at the stop sign.
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Thanks for the comments. I've always wondered how quickly one could react to activate, meanwhile braking as well. I'm unclear though as to where the "bottle" (air reservoir) is carried on the bike. Water bottle cage I presume, though from pictures I've seen the connecting hose looks short. 

On the black bike you can see the white button on the lower handlebar...when I'm on the hoods (most of the time) it is under my left pinkie.
The black bike has the newer metal cannister which works well in the winter. The other two bikes have the older (but lighter) plastic bottle.
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"Dog attack and confrontation with owner"... Here in Metro Boston, including exurbia, I cannot recall being chased by a dog in decades. I think the spray bottle solution is probably the most reasonable alternative to “peaceful” vs “violent” solutions, but seems burdensome if a dog chase is a rare event.
When riding in Michigan, and on various tours including cross country, my successful, spontaneous strategy was to pace myself at submaximal speed as the (single) dog approached, and when close I would scream out loud to startle the dog. Usually it would react by slowing down, and I would speed up to maximal pace. The dog always gave up the chase as the gap widened since it was presumably chasing at its maximal speed. YMMV.
When riding in Michigan, and on various tours including cross country, my successful, spontaneous strategy was to pace myself at submaximal speed as the (single) dog approached, and when close I would scream out loud to startle the dog. Usually it would react by slowing down, and I would speed up to maximal pace. The dog always gave up the chase as the gap widened since it was presumably chasing at its maximal speed. YMMV.
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I live in a rural area where I am learning people have these big dogs because they are afraid. The dogs bark and that give them peace. The problem also is they chase bicycles. I hate to give up some of my favorite runs, but it's probably for the best. As someone said, it's not the bite, but the potential fall resulting in physical harm and damage to the bike. It is not uncommon to have a pack chasing. I was hoping your experience was that the horn stopped them in their tracks.
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I've always wondered how quickly one could react to activate, meanwhile braking as well. I'm unclear though as to where the "bottle" (air reservoir) is carried on the bike. Water bottle cage I presume, though from pictures I've seen the connecting hose looks short. 

On my folder, I've found that the best place for the reservoir is a water bottle cage zip-tied to the back side of the rack. Otherwise it could be attached to a frame tube.
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Plus if you just honk, you're expecting the other person to realize who is honking, and then take a proper evasive action after orienting to the noise. That's a lot to expect from another person, especially when you're putting your safety in their hands.
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+1. Bicycling and motorcycling, my thought has always been if I have time to reach for a horn, I had time to reach for the brake, and I should have been planning on that person to pull out/slam on brakes/swerve into me/whatever.
Plus if you just honk, you're expecting the other person to realize who is honking, and then take a proper evasive action after orienting to the noise. That's a lot to expect from another person, especially when you're putting your safety in their hands.
Plus if you just honk, you're expecting the other person to realize who is honking, and then take a proper evasive action after orienting to the noise. That's a lot to expect from another person, especially when you're putting your safety in their hands.
Trying to stay visible, always having an escape route is the only thing I've come to rely on. Hell, it's often even better - if they don't see you in time, that they don't notice you at all.
The only time I use a horn (on a motorcycle, I'd never bother with that on a bicycle - less is better IMO) is to prevent risky situations in the first place: like sounding a horn before trying to overtake someone, to make sure they look in the mirror and see me coming.
Like Noglider said, from that footage, I can't tell whether the driver was about to stop, or not. And there was more than enough time to swerve and slow down a bit, and check if you're seen, or not.
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