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ptempel 05-18-18 03:04 PM

Another driver with a clear case of SMIDGAF

Archwhorides 05-18-18 09:06 PM

Hate trucks, avoid their crosshairs

RubeRad 05-18-18 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 20346649)
On another note, what happened when that big truck took over that lane that a bunch of other cars were supposed to be in? It looks like there were two lanes of cars to your left that went straight and that the truck would have just smashed into the furthest right lane of cars going straight? How did that end up?

Actually a third lane develops past the intersection, he just headed there. He drove through the big zebra-striped block in the picture.

RubeRad 05-18-18 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by ptempel (Post 20347486)
Another driver with a clear case of SMIDGAF

OK I'll bite, what's SMIDGAF?

RubeRad 05-18-18 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by vol (Post 20347336)
That bike lane sandwiched between vehicle lanes are pretty risky, leaving you no escape should a long truck being dangerously close to you.

I think it's the right setup, actually, for dealing with right-turn-only lanes for cars. As a thru-going bike every right-going car is a potential right hook, I'd rather have my 'own' lane to their left.

RubeRad 05-18-18 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by trailangel (Post 20346752)
I realize I caused some confusion. I consider the bike lane to be "THE WRONG LANE" for any biker at that intersection. As I said before, I would have gone to the curb to the right. I often do this at a busy intersection in the interest of my personal safety.
Carry on

No I got what you meant originally, and I disagree. The right turn lanes are very busy funnelling traffic onto the freeway, it is much safer to use the bike lane to the left. I bet only a handful of vehicles per week find themselves accidentally stuck in the right turn lane and illegally go straight, and almost all of those occasions drivers would act with caution, at least in case there might be a cop around!

Trying to cross from the curb and get through the freeway-bound traffic would be a nightmare!

SHBR 05-19-18 02:46 AM

I hate being passed on the right, and try to avoid any road that allows such behavior.

I sometimes use this alternate left turn method, to avoid collisions, from the right side.

KD5NRH 05-19-18 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 20345625)
As Clifford pointed out, there's a new right lane developing after the intersection, which is probably what he was aiming for. I guess he either ignored me, or expected me to go straight out from where I was and split the lanes on the other side?

Another thing I've seen done with those no-man's-land areas is a bright yellow (or red, or even red/yellow striped) ~6" very square cornered curb. Low enough a vehicle (emergency vehicle) can get over it slowly if absolutely necessary, but guaranteed to be extremely painful if not damaging at >5mph.

ptempel 05-20-18 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 20348060)
OK I'll bite, what's SMIDGAF?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SMIDGAF

Actually first read about its use here of BF.

ptempel 05-20-18 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by SHBR (Post 20348176)
I hate being passed on the right, and try to avoid any road that allows such behavior.

I sometimes use this alternate left turn method, to avoid collisions, from the right side.

This is what I also do (without the little sidewalk loop) with heavy intersections like Winant/Sylvan Ave (Rt 46) to turn left onto Bergen Tpke. I just slow down and/or stop if needed before the intersection. Look for cars turning right behind me. Cross with the bike on the ped walkway to the other side. Stop and turn 90 degrees to face the way I want to go. But this doesn't really help in the OPs case. Its an unusual intersection with the two turn lanes on the right with the bike lane on the left (in the middle). In the OP's intersection, I would also just stay in the bike lane and stop as needed for cars and trucks breaking the law to cross into a lane on the left. I really haven't come across an intersection like the one above in my NJ/NYC area.

Bug Shield 05-20-18 04:47 PM

I'm surprised you were still anywhere near the truck as it merged. I always try to be to the first to the other side of the intersection if I'm in the queue when the light turns green and trucks normally start very slow. This seems to me to be the kind of conflict that bike boxes can help with -- that way you get a head start and better visibility as a bonus.

vol 05-20-18 07:25 PM

Even if the truck did not get lefter and lefter, I would try my best to avoid being next to a large truck especially when it's moving (in whatever direction).

SHBR 05-20-18 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by ptempel (Post 20349948)
This is what I also do (without the little sidewalk loop) with heavy intersections like Winant/Sylvan Ave (Rt 46) to turn left onto Bergen Tpke. I just slow down and/or stop if needed before the intersection. Look for cars turning right behind me. Cross with the bike on the ped walkway to the other side. Stop and turn 90 degrees to face the way I want to go. But this doesn't really help in the OPs case. Its an unusual intersection with the two turn lanes on the right with the bike lane on the left (in the middle). In the OP's intersection, I would also just stay in the bike lane and stop as needed for cars and trucks breaking the law to cross into a lane on the left. I really haven't come across an intersection like the one above in my NJ/NYC area.

As for the OP, that road sucks.

The only way it could be improved is with a physical divider of some sort.

In China there is almost always a curb, or a barrier of some kind that usually prevents this kind of stupidity on high traffic roads.

I'm also not a fan of fences and walls on narrow roads that don't have enough room for a proper bike lane.

The best bike lanes with dividers are more than 3 meters wide, if there is less than that, dividers often cause more problems than they solve.


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