So the mup that runs through my town goes almost nowhere i need to go, except today.
& looks like just enough snow to be fun
11-27-18 | 04:35 PM
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11-27-18 | 06:59 PM
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From my perspective as a cycling commuter, MUPS are more like parks for meandering, than cycling thoroughfares to get to work, or other utilitarian locations.
I have previously posted (in full) this rant:
…Some people, mostly people who are relatively new to cycling, think we should use the few dollars that can go towards improving conditions for cycling by building a few miles of separated infrastructure and place it mostly on urban roads (with the inevitable intersection failures).
Other, more experienced riders, think we would be better served by funding traffic law enforcement and putting in many more miles of proper, six to eight foot bike lanes (not in the door zone) and only putting in separate facilities where there are long stretches of high-speed road without appreciable numbers of intersections.
This difference of opinion wouldn't be such a big deal, but many of the segregationists have been making their public case by convincing everyone that cycling is too dangerous to be done anywhere except on a segregated facility.
Not surprisingly, this has an impact in terms of how many people are willing to even try riding a bike since there is no way to get anywhere in the US without riding on a road. Oddly enough, these people are called and consider themselves "bicycling advocates". If one were to design a fifth-column assault to keep cycling participation down, it would look just like the pro-separation folks.
Other, more experienced riders, think we would be better served by funding traffic law enforcement and putting in many more miles of proper, six to eight foot bike lanes (not in the door zone) and only putting in separate facilities where there are long stretches of high-speed road without appreciable numbers of intersections.
This difference of opinion wouldn't be such a big deal, but many of the segregationists have been making their public case by convincing everyone that cycling is too dangerous to be done anywhere except on a segregated facility.
Not surprisingly, this has an impact in terms of how many people are willing to even try riding a bike since there is no way to get anywhere in the US without riding on a road. Oddly enough, these people are called and consider themselves "bicycling advocates". If one were to design a fifth-column assault to keep cycling participation down, it would look just like the pro-separation folks.
11-27-18 | 08:06 PM
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I commute on the Hudson River Greenway which I have read is the most heavily used bike commuting route in the US. I feel lucky.
There are sections where wheels and feet are on separate paths, in theory, but in practice, walkers and joggers often use the bike path. And there are sections where we are all mixed. (By wheels, I mean bikes, inline skates, scooters, etc.)
There are sections where wheels and feet are on separate paths, in theory, but in practice, walkers and joggers often use the bike path. And there are sections where we are all mixed. (By wheels, I mean bikes, inline skates, scooters, etc.)
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Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
11-27-18 | 08:30 PM
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ambulatory senior
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From: Peoria Il
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I was going to my grandaughters apartment. Its on the northwest side of the city. Typically i need a road to get where i am going but in this case the path was perfect, except where the streets were plowed it blocked the paths. All in all an interesting ride. I had to walk in a few places but mostly it was fine.
