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12-14-22 | 11:07 AM

#26

Harhir

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Joined: Oct 2003

Posts: 679

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From: Plano, TX

Bikes: Fahrradmanufaktur Trekking Bike, Lightning Phantom, bikeE AT, Radwagon3, HP Velotechnik Scorpion

Quote:

Originally Posted by downtube42

I used to volunteer at a bike Co op, and we had a lights and helmets program funded by the local hospital. After a while i concluded giving bike lights to someone who couldn't afford them was not effective. They generally had much bigger problems; dealing with batteries, charging, and theft was not something they needed to add to their already stressed lives. They faced much bigger threats than being hit by a car.

I have experienced the same issues here in my area volunteering for a non-profit bike organization. Safety on bikes is not on top of the list for many when commuting to work. The state of the bikes themselves often explains it as well.

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12-14-22 | 05:43 PM

#27

blacknbluebikes

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Joined: Jul 2013

Posts: 1,286

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From: NJ, USA

Bikes: two blacks, a blue and a white.

camouflage bike jerseys on wooded roads. doesn't' seem to be in anyone's best interest.

12-16-22 | 12:56 PM

#28

Daniel4

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Joined: Jul 2013

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From: Toronto

Bikes: Sekine 1979 ten speed racer

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacknbluebikes

camouflage bike jerseys on wooded roads. doesn't' seem to be in anyone's best interest.

Black and dark blue are very effective camouflage colours at night and against the background of black asphalt.

12-16-22 | 02:50 PM

#29

I-Like-To-Bike

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From: Burlington Iowa

Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel4

Black and dark blue are very effective camouflage colours at night and against the background of black asphalt.

People who drive at night but don't intend to use or even equip their vehicle with lights and reflectors and depend on the color of the exterior to be seen by others should never buy black or dark blue vehicles.

Last edited by I-Like-To-Bike; 12-16-22 at 02:55 PM.

12-19-22 | 10:52 AM

#30

noglider

aka Tom Reingold

Joined: Jan 2009

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From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

My commute is within New York City, a very dense place. I doubt people here are stupider than in other places, but encountering stupid moves is very common because encountering people is very common. I've learned to roll my eyes and forget what I see quickly. If I didn't do that, I'd be irritated all day. While this may not be the solution for you, I suggest you try it.

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