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Originally Posted by Bike Gremlin
(Post 23154183)
...My 2c on commuting bikes, but also clothers and other stuff: Commuting bicycle buying guide
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While we are on the topic of money, would anyonr like to recommend what bike they would spend 1000 dollars or less on for a 10 mile mostly flat rohnd trip commute one pavement/graveled pavement? I was looking at the state 4130 all road as one option.
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Originally Posted by Strawbunyan
(Post 23156131)
While we are on the topic of money, would anyonr like to recommend what bike they would spend 1000 dollars or less on for a 10 mile mostly flat rohnd trip commute one pavement/graveled pavement? I was looking at the state 4130 all road as one option.
Momentum UX should also have a 3 speed available. But why 3 speeds, when you can have 7? You might also find one of the older IGH Momentum Street models in 7 or 8 speed IGH versions available used if you look hard enough, long enough. But, there really aren't that many of those models ever made. In any case, a few dollars spent at a bike shop ensuring proper wheel bearing adjustments and what not soon after purchase will be a good investment in long term reliability. |
Originally Posted by Strawbunyan
(Post 23156131)
While we are on the topic of money, would anyonr like to recommend what bike they would spend 1000 dollars or less on for a 10 mile mostly flat rohnd trip commute one pavement/graveled pavement? I was looking at the state 4130 all road as one option.
I suspect I live pretty close to you, so I'm going to base this list on my commuting (in all weather, eventually, except frozen water on the road). Things you need to look for in a commute bike include: - Mounting points for rack to carry the load (shoes, clothes, maybe a laptop? inside panniers) - Mounting points and clearance for fenders (I see fenders as a requirement for commutes where it rains 30% of days) - Slick tires (not to be confused with thin tires); note you can upgrade from knobbies for about $100 - No suspension; it's expensive and heavy, and if you're riding on the roads, it's unnecessary - Leave room in your budget for blinky tail light, spare tube, patch kit, and tire "irons," and a seat pack to carry them in. And a pump. You can get this with a rigid mountain bike, a gravel bike, or a road bike. Often it'll be a low end, because if you want to ride fast you don't need the rack, and then you can spend an extra thousand bucks or more on a bike. Some people prefer the MTB for an easier glance back to check for traffic. A touring bike, or (some) endurance bikes, offer similar bar geometries, and you'll appreciate the low hand positions when dealing with strong winds before or after a weather front comes through. After inflation :( you might look at REI's ADV 1.1. It's a bit heavy, and a bit over your desired price. OTOH, it has racks, it's built to take rough roads, it's got tires to deal with urban roads (potholes and trash). For a first commute bike, I think it's worth planning test rides, preferably sequentially on the same day. Ride a bunch of bikes 2-3 miles each, and pick the one that you like to ride the most. Call around ahead of Shopping Test Ride Day to find who has models you want to try. If you can hit a bunch of shops with interesting bikes on a Tuesday-Thursday, that's optimum, but you may have to wait until a Saturday. Don't limit yourself shopping on-line to the point you know what you want and won't look at anything else. I almost did that when I went to buy a Cannondale Touring bike, but came home with the REI Randonee, the ADV's predecessor, because I liked it more under my hands and butt. Nicer ride, fit me better than the C'dale, wasn't as noodly as one other model I looked at seriously, it was the nicest of four bikes I rode that day. And after I got in shape and got ambitious after a few years, it carried me right across the country. |
[MENTION=574593]Strawbunyan[/MENTION], see what is on your local craigslist. You can show us what you find for advice. Craigslist is a good place for value if you know what you're looking at.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 23156791)
[MENTION=574593]Strawbunyan[/MENTION], see what is on your local craigslist. You can show us what you find for advice. Craigslist is a good place for value if you know what you're looking at.
A good friend was looking to get his first road bike a year and a half ago. He was shopping for new bikes and was asking my brother and I advice on what to get. We told him to look for slightly used bikes and given it was a couple year into the pandemic, it was the perfect time to pick up a bike someone got during the pandemic bike boom, road twice and never touched again. Sure enough, he found a 1 year old mid-level Specialized with decent components and maybe 30 miles on it for half of what it sold for new. We're still in that time where people thought they'd get into biking during the pandemic, bought a nice one, discovered it wasn't their thing, and want to get rid of the bike. |
I starting commuting last summer and my ride is almost 10 miles round trip. I'm old (53), overweight, and our of shape. I ride a Giant Sedona which I believe is categorized as a comfort bike. It gets the job done. My average speed to work is 11.4 mph and my average speed coming home is 10.2 mph. The only thing I carry is a small frame bag with a spare tube, some tools, a flat repair kit and a pump. I also carry my water bottle. I used to carry my coffee in a cup holder mounted on my bars but now we make coffee at work so I wait till I'm there to have a cup. I do want to get fenders, a rear rack, and bags for the rack so I can carry stuff if I ever need to. I have noticed that since my bike is a lower end Giant (it has cheap parts on it) that it needs attention fairly often. I have to index the rear derailleur every couple months or so and I lube the chain every couple weeks or so. Back in the day when I rode BMX bikes all the time we never did regular maintenance on them. Also the spokes have become way loose. My tension meter will be here tomorrow so this weekend I'll get the spokes tightened up. I like to tinker with stuff so the maintenance doesn't bug me much but I figure if the bike had better quality parts the maintenance would be less often.
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That State All Road looks fine. Go with drop bars, 700c wheels and slick tires for versatility. As the only bike in your garage it would be a good choice for a new and ready to ride bike. I’m a Craigslist cyclist myself with a 40 mile RT commute but I can build and rebuild a bike myself.
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Originally Posted by Classtime
(Post 23157733)
That State All Road looks fine. Go with drop bars, 700c wheels and slick tires for versatility. As the only bike in your garage it would be a good choice for a new and ready to ride bike. I’m a Craigslist cyclist myself with a 40 mile RT commute but I can build and rebuild a bike myself.
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Originally Posted by ScottCommutes
(Post 23153489)
Sadly, not my experience:
Bike stand Tires Tubes Lights Raincoat Winter coat Boots Heavy socks Thermal insoles Rain pants Grips Pedals Grease Seats/saddles Seatpost Chains Various chain lubes Degreaser Chain cleaning tools Crank removal tool Freewheel removal tool Rear rack and hardware New freewheel Food Reflective vest Similar equipment for backup bike Replacement rear derailleurs Rim tape Cleaning supplies Multi-port USB charger to charge all the lights Balaclava Different weights of gloves New wheels Quick links Replacement cables and housings Spoke wrenches Replacement nipples/washers Wheel truing stand Bottom bracket Left side crank Rear axles Replacement spokes Snow tires Multitool Lip balm Medicine |
Originally Posted by RStewart
(Post 23157673)
I starting commuting last summer and my ride is almost 10 miles round trip. I'm old (53), overweight, and our of shape. I ride a Giant Sedona which I believe is categorized as a comfort bike. It gets the job done. My average speed to work is 11.4 mph and my average speed coming home is 10.2 mph. The only thing I carry is a small frame bag with a spare tube, some tools, a flat repair kit and a pump. I also carry my water bottle. I used to carry my coffee in a cup holder mounted on my bars but now we make coffee at work so I wait till I'm there to have a cup. I do want to get fenders, a rear rack, and bags for the rack so I can carry stuff if I ever need to. I have noticed that since my bike is a lower end Giant (it has cheap parts on it) that it needs attention fairly often. I have to index the rear derailleur every couple months or so and I lube the chain every couple weeks or so. Back in the day when I rode BMX bikes all the time we never did regular maintenance on them. Also the spokes have become way loose. My tension meter will be here tomorrow so this weekend I'll get the spokes tightened up. I like to tinker with stuff so the maintenance doesn't bug me much but I figure if the bike had better quality parts the maintenance would be less often.
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The comment on a lower end bike needing more regular fine tuning than a better quality bike I find to hold true. All my machines are running at least mid-grade components and for those it's generally a case of set it and forget it (I still regularly clean and lube). You don't need to go real high end, anything that generally lands in the middle of a manufacturers lineup, or even just a few steps up from their cheapest offering, is enough.
There's been some mention of going with something that has an internally geared hub (IGH). Sound advice and is something I'll do one of these days. If you're keen on not worrying much about maintenance, an IGH is the way to go. I'll also hop on the flat bar suggestion train. I've been commuting for a bit now regularly with a drop bar bike, an older touring bike, and I'm not a fan of the drop bars for my short commute and tooling around town. I'll be swapping out to a flat bar soon or, more likely, a mustache bar. If you have no idea what that is, google 'mustache bar bike' and that will give you a great idea of what it is and it looks on a bike. It really gets your arms back and allows you to sit more upright. |
Where's middle TN. Like Nashville or Jackson? Or middle of nowhere Tennessee where there isn't any bike shops. I live outside of Chattanooga, lots of shops here.
That said, if your only other riding was a BMX, I'd definitely suggest something with a flat bar, maybe aluminum frame, it'll feel light and free. Poseidon bikes have a bunch on sale online and I think think they are nice for the price. |
Originally Posted by mechanicmatt
(Post 23158669)
Where's middle TN. Like Nashville or Jackson? Or middle of nowhere Tennessee where there isn't any bike shops. I live outside of Chattanooga, lots of shops here.
That said, if your only other riding was a BMX, I'd definitely suggest something with a flat bar, maybe aluminum frame, it'll feel light and free. Poseidon bikes have a bunch on sale online and I think think they are nice for the price. |
Originally Posted by Strawbunyan
(Post 23158792)
i am halfway between Memphis and Nashville and as far south as you can get before you are in Alabama. My closest bike shop is a 90 minute drive. :(
I also suggest an upright bike for commuting; it's good to be able to see what's going on around you. And definitely get a comfortable bike, because pretty soon your 5 mile commute could start to get longer as you get fitter and more comfortable with riding. My commute was 8 miles each way, and when I arrived at work I had to resist the urge to just keep going. Since you'll likely be doing a lot of your own maintenance and repairs, I suggest RJ the Bike Guy's and Park Tools' YouTube channels. Here's my commuting (and everything else) bike: https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...de80ee6b43.jpg Getting ready to start the Critical Mass ride. |
Originally Posted by Strawbunyan
(Post 23158792)
i am halfway between Memphis and Nashville and as far south as you can get before you are in Alabama. My closest bike shop is a 90 minute drive. :(
My suggestion: ROAD TRIP!!! Plan for a day (or long afternoon) in your choice of Nashville or Memphis. Look up bike shops in the area the week before you go, call around and ask what they have that might work for you. Spend some time visiting multiple shops, test riding as many bikes as you can, and making notes. Around 3:30, go buy the bike that's been calling your name, buy whatever necessities you don't already have (lock, spare tube, pump, panniers, water bottle and cage, etc.). If you're going to get panniers, buy them and ask the shop to install them -- they're either trivial or enough to make a seasoned mechanic swear, usually the latter. Enjoy a nice dinner, and head home. Are you close enough to head over to the Natchez Trace on weekends? Some nice riding there! |
Originally Posted by pdlamb
(Post 23161945)
I'd have thought Florence (AL) would have a bike shop, but since I've never looked for one when I went through, I don't know for sure.
My suggestion: ROAD TRIP!!! Plan for a day (or long afternoon) in your choice of Nashville or Memphis. Look up bike shops in the area the week before you go, call around and ask what they have that might work for you. Spend some time visiting multiple shops, test riding as many bikes as you can, and making notes. Around 3:30, go buy the bike that's been calling your name, buy whatever necessities you don't already have (lock, spare tube, pump, panniers, water bottle and cage, etc.). If you're going to get panniers, buy them and ask the shop to install them -- they're either trivial or enough to make a seasoned mechanic swear, usually the latter. Enjoy a nice dinner, and head home. Are you close enough to head over to the Natchez Trace on weekends? Some nice riding there! |
Originally Posted by RStewart
(Post 23157673)
I starting commuting last summer and my ride is almost 10 miles round trip. I'm old (53), overweight, and our of shape. I ride a Giant Sedona which I believe is categorized as a comfort bike. It gets the job done. My average speed to work is 11.4 mph and my average speed coming home is 10.2 mph. The only thing I carry is a small frame bag with a spare tube, some tools, a flat repair kit and a pump. I also carry my water bottle. I used to carry my coffee in a cup holder mounted on my bars but now we make coffee at work so I wait till I'm there to have a cup. I do want to get fenders, a rear rack, and bags for the rack so I can carry stuff if I ever need to. I have noticed that since my bike is a lower end Giant (it has cheap parts on it) that it needs attention fairly often. I have to index the rear derailleur every couple months or so and I lube the chain every couple weeks or so. Back in the day when I rode BMX bikes all the time we never did regular maintenance on them. Also the spokes have become way loose. My tension meter will be here tomorrow so this weekend I'll get the spokes tightened up. I like to tinker with stuff so the maintenance doesn't bug me much but I figure if the bike had better quality parts the maintenance would be less often.
... but ... You don't tighten spokes. Truing wheels is a skill. Watch some youtubes or read something about it. You don't just bring spokes up to some number that may not apply to your situation. How do you know they are "way loose?" You could even look for existing threads (better than starting your own) about truing wheels. You'll find them in the Mechanics section of bikeforums. I've built dozens of wheels from scratch and never used a tension meter. I'm not saying they're useless, just that they're not necessary for everyone. |
Originally Posted by Korina
(Post 23159973)
If there's one thing the guys on BF like more than bickering, it's bike shopping for other people. Give them your county and your leg length, and they'll find something cool for you; the money you save can go to the other stuff you'll need, like mirror, fenders, helmet, lights, rack, panniers, etc.
Good advice, too. And your bike is as pretty as ever. |
It wont let me post photos yet but i purchased a bike. The Eastern Alpaka is on sale for 400 dollars down from 800 and since i needed something mountain bikey to ride with the kids on the weekend i figured this could serve the dual purpose, and be upgraded as i see fit so I used the money i saved for some riding gear and safety stuff. Thank you all for your input. I will continue to keep you posted as i progress as a commuter 😁 pics as soon as i hit the required number of posts.
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
(Post 23165045)
Shall we wait a few months and see what O.P. thinks of it, and whether or not he continues to ride it, before we make pronouncements like that? As a blogger wrote a while back, the worst bike is the one that never gets ridden.
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You did a good thing buying that bike. You saved money. You'll learn from it and figure out what's important to you for when you replace it. It's good not to spend too much on your first bike.
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That bike has all the modern tech. Watch some videos to learn how to tune it up.
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More than enough bike.
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Well? Where are our pics? ;)
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