Riding in the dark in mornings
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I wear a bright yellow reflective vest, reflective ribbon on my jersey sleeves (and if I'm wearing pants reflective ankle bands), two white LED lights on the front, two red LED lights on the back and these:
The bar end lights have been fantastic. I'm sure it makes it easier for car drivers to judge how much room to leave when going around me and they are somewhat visible from the sides, which is a bonus when going past side streets where a car could potentially pull out on me.
The bar end lights have been fantastic. I'm sure it makes it easier for car drivers to judge how much room to leave when going around me and they are somewhat visible from the sides, which is a bonus when going past side streets where a car could potentially pull out on me.
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Seeing bikes from side streets has been a concern of mine..My reflectizered ankle straps also flash..Hope it impossible to not see me from side streets.
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Assuming you have a light in the front so you can see the next most important is reflectors. All the posts here about reflectorized vests and straps are very good. The reflectors that came on your bike, especially those in the spokes and on the pedals, are very effective at attracting attention from an auto driver and identifying you as a moving bicycle. Nothing wrong with bike tail lights and blinkies but they are overpowered by car headlights and so don't show all that well.
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I would never risk my safety on a hybrid bicycle in the darkness of the morning. The crime ratio is horrendous. Best leave early morning riding only to experienced riders who don't ponder on lifes little idiosyncracies. Especially if you ride the trails.
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Originally Posted by ChroMo2
I would never risk my safety on a hybrid bicycle in the darkness of the morning. The crime ratio is horrendous. Best leave early morning riding only to experienced riders who don't ponder on lifes little idiosyncracies. Especially if you ride the trails.
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Originally Posted by Noif666
I wear a bright yellow reflective vest, reflective ribbon on my jersey sleeves (and if I'm wearing pants reflective ankle bands), two white LED lights on the front, two red LED lights on the back and these:
The bar end lights have been fantastic. I'm sure it makes it easier for car drivers to judge how much room to leave when going around me and they are somewhat visible from the sides, which is a bonus when going past side streets where a car could potentially pull out on me.
The bar end lights have been fantastic. I'm sure it makes it easier for car drivers to judge how much room to leave when going around me and they are somewhat visible from the sides, which is a bonus when going past side streets where a car could potentially pull out on me.
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Originally Posted by ChroMo2
I would never risk my safety on a hybrid bicycle in the darkness of the morning. The crime ratio is horrendous. Best leave early morning riding only to experienced riders who don't ponder on lifes little idiosyncracies. Especially if you ride the trails.
Er. I mean, it's for their own safety.
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Originally Posted by dynaryder
Going to have to try those. For us 'Mericans,found a site that carries them:
https://www.knogusa.com/en-us/dept_6.html
https://www.knogusa.com/en-us/dept_6.html
Of course the guy didn't stop to see if I was ok...
).[back on topic] Which brings me to my next point, they don't take well to being knocked about...but then I don't think many bike lights can take a direct hit and still function properly.
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Do any semiconductor industry geeks make any predictions about when this joyful event will occur? Because then when my NiteRider fails, I will junk it and go LED.
Originally Posted by Patriot
LED lights are slowly getting brighter, and will eventually be as bright as 10w halogens
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I have a LED climber's headlamp made by Black Diamond that is as bright as my 10W niterider. Bike specific lights will be soon to catch up, maybe in the next 2 years.
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Originally Posted by Patriot
LED lights are slowly getting brighter, and will eventually be as bright as 10w halogens. Until then, I will stick with my Cygo-Lite Night Rover Xtra 16w. It really is nice on my commute, especially when it's raining.
A good flashing red LED tail light on th erear. Make sure it uses cheaper AA or AAA batteries, not the expensive coin type.
Also, make sure your clothing has some good reflective striping, it'll help save your behind.
A good flashing red LED tail light on th erear. Make sure it uses cheaper AA or AAA batteries, not the expensive coin type.
Also, make sure your clothing has some good reflective striping, it'll help save your behind.
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Alright ! Maybe Santa Claus will bring me a new gift in late 2007 then.
Oh, regarding AAA batteries for the rear blinky, use the NiMH rechargeables, I top mine off every Sunday, I never buy batteries.
Oh, regarding AAA batteries for the rear blinky, use the NiMH rechargeables, I top mine off every Sunday, I never buy batteries.
Originally Posted by Bekologist
I have a LED climber's headlamp made by Black Diamond that is as bright as my 10W niterider. Bike specific lights will be soon to catch up, maybe in the next 2 years.
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Originally Posted by New2Cycling
Hey guys and gals!!
This board has been really helpful and inspiring to me as a new cyclist. I have a commute in which I will have to leave in the early morning, like 6. What would you all recommend for me to equip myself with? I'm not sure if it matters, but I drive a hybrid bike. Thank you.
This board has been really helpful and inspiring to me as a new cyclist. I have a commute in which I will have to leave in the early morning, like 6. What would you all recommend for me to equip myself with? I'm not sure if it matters, but I drive a hybrid bike. Thank you.

I would get at least 2 Blinky Lights for the REAR.
(I have one strapped to my Seat Post and another fairly large one on my rear rack)
Headlights... I started out with some cheap-o LED (Ascent Jet Set Combo---piece of crap!)...then another LED CatEye (EL 300)... Then I moved up to the Big Guns: ViewPoint™ EVO Dual Headlight System ...Got these on sale for 119.00 BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
WIth the cheaper lights you are always trying to make out whats on the road/trail. Not with the Dual Headlights.... you can fly!
I second the vote on Alertshirt.com , I just received a Sweatshirt (Safety Lime) holy crap is it bright! twas only 19.00 and moisture wick. but ya have to worry about shiipping costs.
Good luck to ya
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Originally Posted by New2Cycling
Hey guys and gals!!
This board has been really helpful and inspiring to me as a new cyclist. I have a commute in which I will have to leave in the early morning, like 6. What would you all recommend for me to equip myself with? I'm not sure if it matters, but I drive a hybrid bike. Thank you.
This board has been really helpful and inspiring to me as a new cyclist. I have a commute in which I will have to leave in the early morning, like 6. What would you all recommend for me to equip myself with? I'm not sure if it matters, but I drive a hybrid bike. Thank you.

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seriously, put two blinking lights on the back of your bikeframe (for one reason only!) so you don't get hit by a drunk or some other type of mental incapacitant.
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I like the dynamo front hub powering a front headlight and red taillight. Never have to charge anything. Always ready to use. But I agree that bright (canary yellow) clothing is even more important. You can adjust your speed to match your lights, but you can't adjust motorists' speed to match your visibility. So max out on the visibility thing.
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In addition to all the lights & reflective clothing, you will soon need to add some wool to your wardrobe. Socks, sweater & gloves for starters. Wool is great & still keeps you warm when it's wet.
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NiteRider lights. People comment how bright my light is.
I would like a dual beam one but I got mine before there was such a think.
some sort of clear eye protection
long finger gloves
something to keep your head warm that fits the helmit
etc
Joe
I would like a dual beam one but I got mine before there was such a think.
some sort of clear eye protection
long finger gloves
something to keep your head warm that fits the helmit
etc
Joe
#48
I suggest you spend to get a good headlight, it costs less in the long run than purchasing several cheep ones that crap out. I don't like Nightrider because of their connectors and batteries (the lights are great but if they don't get reliable juice who cares). Lots of bright blinkies in the rear and reflective tape covering all the manufacturers' labels (that will be everywhere there is even the tinyest bit of space on a bike). I also suggest a removable trunk to store the additional clothes you wear in the morning (fall and spring) but not in the afternoon. I like removable because in the winter and summer I wear the same clothes morning and afternoon and don't want to carry an empty trunk.
#49
I find riding before dawn to be the safest time to ride. Less cars, they see your lights in the dark easier that a bicyclist during daylight. You can usually pick and choose that part of the lane that has less bumps because you not competing with cars and you never get doored.
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I am still a newbie at commuting, but I'm quickly learning about seeing/being seen better.
Lighting (seeing)
I'm currently running a Cygo-Lite Night Rover Xtra. It seems to fill my needs but I will be experimenting with some of the ideas in the Total Geekness thread.
Being seen
I have:
I probably look insane, but as one of my co-workers put it, if someone hits me, the crash should be considered foul play
Lighting (seeing)
I'm currently running a Cygo-Lite Night Rover Xtra. It seems to fill my needs but I will be experimenting with some of the ideas in the Total Geekness thread.
Being seen
I have:
- Reflective Tape all over my bike (see blurry attachment)
- Squares of white reflective tape on my white helmet
- A Cateye blinky mounted on my rear rack.
- UV TireFlys on my valve stems.
- Niteize Marker Bands on my backpack (I just got panniers so these will probably move to my arms)
I probably look insane, but as one of my co-workers put it, if someone hits me, the crash should be considered foul play




