Bike the strike!
#51
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Originally Posted by BFBridgeguy
The single speed bikes in your photos are probably used by messengers.
#52
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Perhaps, and just as comical as if used by regular commuters. Track bikes and fixed gear bikes are still bicycle fish out of water in Center City Philadelphia (or any other city with nutty stop-and-go traffic and frequent wet conditions) despite their alleged "street cred" for simplicity. No brakes - what could be simpler - Maybe no seat?
As for being a fish out of water in Philly, I think this city might have the highest per capita number of fixed riders. I see more here than in BOS, NYC, WAS, ATL... etc.
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Originally Posted by ofofhy
I do ride a singlespeed, because I hate derailers, and because of the flat lay of the land, there really is no need to shift in the city. I wouldn't mind riding a fixed gear, but I prefer having the ability to coast in traffic. Most of the brakeless riders I know are well in control of their bikes and they know how to stop and ride just as well as anybody with brakes. I did see a guy riding a brakeless, geared bike, but he was a true idiot. I saw him have three near accidents in three blocks.
As for being a fish out of water in Philly, I think this city might have the highest per capita number of fixed riders. I see more here than in BOS, NYC, WAS, ATL... etc.
As for being a fish out of water in Philly, I think this city might have the highest per capita number of fixed riders. I see more here than in BOS, NYC, WAS, ATL... etc.
Fixed gear on city streets = masochistic and trendy.
I'm happy to see bicyclists riding anything but don't find owners of trendy or race oriented bikes any more "worthy" or "serious" than those riding old Huffys, Sears, x-marts or any other bike that meets the owners' needs.
The reference to brakeless drivers in control reminds me of the Philadephia Flyers owner making excuses for one of his players who was killed while driving after getting drunk at the owner's party:<paraphrase IAW my memory of the quote>"He could drive better drunk than most people sober." Yes, true until it wasn't.
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Originally Posted by ofofhy
I do ride a singlespeed, because I hate derailers, and because of the flat lay of the land, there really is no need to shift in the city. I wouldn't mind riding a fixed gear, but I prefer having the ability to coast in traffic. Most of the brakeless riders I know are well in control of their bikes and they know how to stop and ride just as well as anybody with brakes. I did see a guy riding a brakeless, geared bike, but he was a true idiot. I saw him have three near accidents in three blocks.
As for being a fish out of water in Philly, I think this city might have the highest per capita number of fixed riders. I see more here than in BOS, NYC, WAS, ATL... etc.
As for being a fish out of water in Philly, I think this city might have the highest per capita number of fixed riders. I see more here than in BOS, NYC, WAS, ATL... etc.
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Did you feel the breeze on your face, because that just went over your head.
BTW if I thought it made me more worthy to bask in the glow Sheldon Brown's bicycle collection, I would post a picture of a bicycle that was more practical for commuting in Philadelphia (the subject of this thread):

Even this bike would have problems due to probable crappy braking when the rims are wet. Otherwise a real winner for practical city cycling.
#60
I wasn't aware that there was one right answer to this question. I had mistakenly thought it was a matter of what a given person enjoys and finds to work for them. I be sure to file this away for future reference, chief.
Whatever.
Personally, I don't get your fetish for trekking bikes, but that's your thing, so cool. Ride on.
-Trevor, who has commuted on hybrids, mountain bikes, road bikes, single speeds, but prefers a fixed gear for speed, responsiveness, and--yes--comfort.
Whatever.
Personally, I don't get your fetish for trekking bikes, but that's your thing, so cool. Ride on.
-Trevor, who has commuted on hybrids, mountain bikes, road bikes, single speeds, but prefers a fixed gear for speed, responsiveness, and--yes--comfort.
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I commute on a fixed gear with a brake. I find it more comfortable and easy to control than a coasting bike, specially in traffic. Slow speed control becomes easier with a fixed gear, since you do not have to reach for the brake all the time, but that might be just me.
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
I wasn't aware that there was one right answer to this question. I had mistakenly thought it was a matter of what a given person enjoys and finds to work for them. I be sure to file this away for future reference, chief.
Whatever.
Personally, I don't get your fetish for trekking bikes, but that's your thing, so cool. Ride on.
-Trevor, who has commuted on hybrids, mountain bikes, road bikes, single speeds, but prefers a fixed gear for speed, responsiveness, and--yes--comfort.
Whatever.
Personally, I don't get your fetish for trekking bikes, but that's your thing, so cool. Ride on.
-Trevor, who has commuted on hybrids, mountain bikes, road bikes, single speeds, but prefers a fixed gear for speed, responsiveness, and--yes--comfort.
My point: the bike types laughed/sneered at by some (maybe most) "experts" may be the most suitable for the actual task. Conversely, those bicycles designed for sporting events and specialized competitions may be least suitable for city cycling; especially for beginners/non-club-type enthusiasts considering bicycling as an alternate way to commute during (and possibly after) the strike.
The use of esoteric competition bikes for routine city cycling may be good for stroking ego and impressing a relative few bicycling aficionados, but I wouldn't know.
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#63
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In an effort to return this thread to a happy place, may I refer everyone to this nice article about bike commuting in today's Inky: https://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/n...t/13076597.htm.
Here's a login for the Inky site from bugmenot.com:
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#64
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Perhaps you missed the beginning of this thread when a poster was criticized for only providing his wife an "unworthy" bicycle for commuting a flat 4 miles in Philadelphia during the public transit strike. And that the use of such a comical bicycle would induce scorn and/or laughter from those who appreciate and use "worthy" bicycles.
My point: the bike types laughed/sneered at by some (maybe most) "experts" may be the most suitable for the actual task. Conversely, those bicycles designed for sporting events and specialized competitions may be least suitable for city cycling; especially for beginners/non-club-type enthusiasts considering bicycling as an alternate way to commute during (and possibly after) the strike.
The use of esoteric competition bikes for routine city cycling may be good for stroking ego and impressing a relative few bicycling aficionados, but I wouldn't know.
My point: the bike types laughed/sneered at by some (maybe most) "experts" may be the most suitable for the actual task. Conversely, those bicycles designed for sporting events and specialized competitions may be least suitable for city cycling; especially for beginners/non-club-type enthusiasts considering bicycling as an alternate way to commute during (and possibly after) the strike.
The use of esoteric competition bikes for routine city cycling may be good for stroking ego and impressing a relative few bicycling aficionados, but I wouldn't know.
I'd have to assume that the OP's purchase of the bike, along with his wife's fondness for it, show that its good qualities are appreciated. Personally, I think it is great to see a picture of something that looks like a real bike.
Paul
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Originally Posted by PaulH
While I agree that, in principle, the bike in question is far better suited to practical tansportation than nearly anything available on the American market, the OP explained that the "comical" appearance while riding and unsuitability for the commute stemmed from a grossly low gear ratio, which he is working to fix. Would you rather have the OP's wife struggle along as if stuck in the low gear of a multispeed bike? I should think a bunch more gear-inches to be ia huge improvement.
I'd have to assume that the OP's purchase of the bike, along with his wife's fondness for it, show that its good qualities are appreciated. Personally, I think it is great to see a picture of something that looks like a real bike.
Paul
I'd have to assume that the OP's purchase of the bike, along with his wife's fondness for it, show that its good qualities are appreciated. Personally, I think it is great to see a picture of something that looks like a real bike.
Paul
For a non-enthusiast just starting out, better a "comedy" of easy cycling in a low gear ratio on a single speed than a "tragedy" of strugling and giving up in a too high gear ratio. Unless she is looking to race taxis to her destination from day one.
Just wondering, did the wife in question have a problem with the installed gear ratio? If so, then hubby is doing the right thing by suggesting/installing a higher gear.
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Originally Posted by Lieren
In an effort to return this thread to a happy place, may I refer everyone to this nice article about bike commuting in today's Inky: https://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/n...t/13076597.htm.
Happy biking, all!
Happy biking, all!
#67
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Just wondering, did the wife in question have a problem with the installed gear ratio?
I did notice that by 6:30 pm the traffic has pretty much cleared out. I don't know if more and more people are leaving earlier to "beat the traffic". If that is the case, productivity in a lot of businesses must be suffering.
#68
Originally Posted by Lieren
In an effort to return this thread to a happy place, may I refer everyone to this nice article about bike commuting in today's Inky: https://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/n...t/13076597.htm.
At least they pointed out that sidewalk cycling in CC is illegal. That is my one pet peeve about all of the new commuters is that so many of them are on the sidewalks. I have seen some of them really moving too, and they get annoyed when peds don't get out of the way.







