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79pmooney 09-08-16 12:52 AM

One simple way to make good panniers less attractive is to use them a lot. My Ortleibs, after 10 years of 3-4 commutes/week plus shopping year 'round don't get much attention from anybody. (Of course, you want to start with panniers that will still be usable after that time.)

Edit: my first Ortleibs were 10 years old when this thread started. They have been replaced as primaries but still get used anytime I want front and rear or I need panniers with fewer theft worries. Being Ortleibs, they are as waterproof as they were new and the hardware is easy to get.

Ben

RubeRad 09-08-16 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Domromer (Post 2509546)
thats cool. Too bad I'm poor to afford such a nice hardcase. I saw a couple doing a bike tour in mexico. Instead of tradtional panniers they were using the square kitty litter buckets. They somehow attached them to the rack, I guess it would work well, tough, waterproof, and if they break you can get a replacement in any grocery store.

I use a kittier, it's easy. You're right, it works very well, it's super tough and waterproof. The only part that wears is the hinged lid, which after a few years starts to crack. But keep an eye out at the recycling and you'll find replacements faster than you can use them up. Or find a neighbor or friend with a cat and ask for their empties.

It's not locked to the bike at all, but who would steal it? Especially mine is covered in reflective tape and very identifiable.

Another option, since you say you're poor, ditch the panniers and 'permanently' attach a milk crate to your rack, like with bolts, nuts and washers, or hose clamps.

corrado33 09-08-16 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by CycleRyder (Post 19040762)
I know this is an old thread now but I was toying with the idea of a locking mecanism that locks the clips of a clip on panner in place so some passer by won't be able to lift them off the bike without the key.

These clip on panners are WAY too much money for what they are. Sure they are innovative & handy but way too much for something thats easy to steal. You'd think at the prices of the Lbera or Axiom bags they would at least have a locking mechanism that would secure it to a bike. Right now I got two $20 Everest backpacks hooked up to both sides of my front rack & they can hold a decent amount of stuff.

Since they are zip tied on there pretty good using thick strong zip ties as well as a few hose clamps nobody has bothered to steal them off my bike when I lock up somewhere so far. I would like clip on panners someday but at those prices they seem more like a gimmic to me.

It would be nice if clip on panniers had straps that allowed them to be carried easily like a backpack or shoulder bag when removed from the bike at least. But for now I like my setup. I got two backpacks on both sides of my rack as well as my backpack I wear which when combined can carry a fair amount of cargo like groceries & stuff.

There are many versions of the "backpack" pannier. This arkel is one of them.

Arkel Switchback 2.0 Pannier - Black/Lime - Modern Bike

Clip on attachment mechanisms are complicated, they have to be. Losing a pannier due to the bike bouncing is unacceptable, yet the bag has to be able to be removed quickly. I've used both ortlieb's mechanism and thule's commuter panniers mechanism. The Thule mechanism is more secure (up top), but is more finicky. The ortlieb mechanism feels flimsier.. (thin plastics) but it works EXTREMELY easily. I'd have confidence that either would be fine on a tour. The magnet used for the lower attachment for the thule bags is... slightly annoying if you lay your bike over while loaded. The pannier will swing out because the magnet isn't strong enough to resist the force of gravity in a perpendicular direction. In all honesty I never lay my bike down, so that's not an issue. The thule panniers are also meant for commuting, not touring. The ortlieb has a simple plastic hook that catches one of the downtubes of the rack. Simple yet effective, but slightly more difficult to get on than the magnet.

Again, both are great and work perfectly well, I'm just noting differences. The thule ones come with replacement "hooks" for the attachment mechanism, but I've never needed to replace them, despite dropping the loaded bag on the hooks quite often (accidently.) I expected them to break a long time ago and cringe every time I drop it, but they seem to be holding strong. The mechanism on the thule bag also folds away to carry the pannier with the included strap over your shoulder and not worry about the hooks catching your pants.

fietsbob 09-08-16 11:03 AM

Modify Bike Buckets The Bike Bucket - Bike Buckets to not only be screwed on to the rack
with P clips rather than Hooks. but also have a way to lock your lid closed.

DIY, get Kitty litter Bins..




./.

blackieoneshot 09-08-16 07:53 PM

As RubeRab mentioned: hose clamps. They are a minor pain in the ass, but that's the point.

bigbenaugust 09-09-16 08:35 AM

No one will steal a cat litter bucket. ;)

Lsater 05-13-18 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by Domromer (Post 2511864)
Thats probably the best idea, using really cheap bags. But then what do I do with my snazzy nice bags? Get a snazzy nice bike to go with them, and go and long winding tours through southern Arizona and Mexico. I'll explain to my wife it's because of panniers I'm going away for 2 months. yeah thats the ticket!

Your two beat options at todays day in age is to either disguise them as boring potato chips, but them you would have to always leave some good chips nearby. The old little bag of quality beats big bag of boring trick. Or go buy a baby ruth every once in a while and just smear it everywhere on the flaps, remember to have a few peanuts still lodged here and there so that even at a semi close look the thief will be pretty sure its poop on there. Everyone is scared of poop, except moms. But they dont have the kinda time to steal panniers... They have kids. Real poop works even better

RubeRad 05-14-18 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by bigbenaugust (Post 19043824)
No one will steal a cat litter bucket. ;)

That's what I'm counting on!

https://www.bikeforums.net/attachmen...hmentid=385187

Khb 05-14-18 09:46 AM

bikebins
 

Originally Posted by Domromer (Post 2507612)
thanks for all the locking ideas, I'm still not sure what my solution is. wish they nade rigid cases like on my motorcycle, but for bikes.

Bikebins - British Born British Made

Bikewolf 05-16-18 01:36 PM

Another great tip I got once, was to simply write your name or initials on it.

RubeRad 05-16-18 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Khb (Post 20339307)

Pretty cool, looks like basically a more refined version of a kittier

http://www.bikebins.com/images/Bikeb...-image-red.jpg

vja4Him 06-21-18 10:55 PM

Does anybody have the Surly Big Dummy Panniers ? Any ideas how to lock them ?

Khb 06-25-18 12:07 PM

rigid cases...
 

Originally Posted by Domromer (Post 2507612)
thanks for all the locking ideas, I'm still not sure what my solution is. wish they nade rigid cases like on my motorcycle, but for bikes.

"They" do
Bikebins - British Born British Made


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